Talk:Mount Jefferson (Oregon)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:10, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I am taking a look and making some straightforward copyedits as I go. I'll jot questions/issues below: Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:10, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

• ... and diverse flora and fauna inhabit the area. ' - without mentioning any flora or fauna, this segment just sorta sits there as filler. I'd remove it from where it is, tack the "The mountain forms part of the Mount Jefferson Wilderness" onto the sentence before, and reconstitute mention of flora/fauna elsewhere in lead with some specific organisms.

Should be fixed. ceranthor 15:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

much better Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:04, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

• It has been studied a number of times since its discovery, including field work during the 20th century. - without extra info doesn't add anything useful. Maybe remove it?

Removed. ceranthor 15:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

• forming about 730,000 years ago. - does this refer to Mt Jefferson, the melting...or both?

Added a bit more detail to clarify. ceranthor 15:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

• Consisting of made up of basaltic andesite, andesite, and dacite - links? also should there be two andesites?

Added. And yes, basaltic andesite and andesite are two different types of volcanic rock. ceranthor 15:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

• In the geography section, adding roughly where it is (central/east/west/north) would be good...

Added. ceranthor 15:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

• In the past few centuries, moraine-dammed lakes have formed on Mount Jefferson, - umm, you've said this two sentences before...

Fixed, sorry about that! ceranthor 15:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Good - a question, what extra meaning is there by using "inundated" rather than "flooded"? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:04, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

As far as I know, nothing. I've seen them used interchangeably. ceranthor 00:25, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

• Within recent years,... - why not just, "In recent years,"

Changed. ceranthor 15:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

• .. though mountain hemlock has also invaded into subalpine meadows at Mount Jefferson - as someone interested in ecology, my immediate thought is "why"?

Added some ideas from the article. ceranthor 15:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

• The Ecology section comes over as listy - any details on any particularly rare organisms that are found there, or any extremely common or unusual organisms are good to discuss as well.

I don't know enough about its ecology to be certain, but I think the section is comprehensive at least. I used the French wikipedia version as a model. ceranthor 15:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Do you have any suggestions for how I might improve this? ceranthor 00:25, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

ok, just try scouring google scholar for mentions of the area and see what comes up. It's not a deal-breaker for GA but might be for FA - also things like "southernmost/northernmost occurrence of..." are possibilities. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:52, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

• Jefferson's main come ranges from 58 to 64 percent silicon dioxide, and is mostly made up of andesite and dacite - should this be "cone"?

Embarrassing! Fixed. ceranthor 15:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

• scientists have been unable to create a specific time frame for the event - err, you've just given one, though a large one. Needs rewording.

Tweaked to "more specific". Not sure if that does the trick. ceranthor 15:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

It does, that's fine Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:04, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, Cas Liber. Fixed some and replied to a few. ceranthor 15:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

@Casliber: Replied to your follow-up comments. ceranthor 00:25, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

More:

• and it is relatively unknown compared to other features near the Willamette Valley - well, it ain't unknown, is it? "poorly/little known, little-explored" or somesuch.

Tweaked. ceranthor 17:45, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

• I'd put its native American name in the lead somewhere (not essential)

Added. ceranthor 17:45, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

• ''Jefferson Park, on the northern slope of the mountain, can be reached by foot - from where? Also, any land area can be reached on foot..this doesn't help me understand how far it is...from...wherever.

Added a bit more detail. ceranthor 17:45, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

• Mount Jefferson has a remote location, and can usually only be reached on foot or by horse. - I don't follow...later it says it has a ski field??? Also "has" a location sounds odd.

Turns out it was a different Mount Jefferson. Removed, and will make sure to keep an eye out for future mistakes of that nature. ceranthor 17:45, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

• Avoid one-sentence paras if possible

Should all be combined into other paras. ceranthor 17:45, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

• For the record, earwigs copyvio clear

1. Well written?:

Prose quality: - just the final quibbles above.  Done

Manual of Style compliance:

2. Factually accurate and verifiable?:

References to sources:

Citations to reliable sources, where required:

No original research:

3. Broad in coverage?:

Major aspects:

Focused:

4. Reflects a neutral point of view?:

Fair representation without bias:

5. Reasonably stable?

No edit wars, etc. (Vandalism does not count against GA):

6. Illustrated by images, when possible and appropriate?:

Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

Overall:

Pass or Fail: pending a few things above

@Casliber: Should all be addressed. Going to copyedit the ecology section a bit more. ceranthor 17:45, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

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