Talk:MongoDB Inc.

Requested move

10gen → MongoDB, Inc. – Company name changed Mongodb (talk) 15:37, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Already done. Also, your account has been reported for violating the username policy. ViperSnake151  Talk  18:41, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

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"Open source"

This article repeatedly refers to MongoDB as "open source". Is that still true? In 2018 (according to the "MongoDB" article here), the license was changed from the GNU Affero General Public License to MongoDB's own "Server Side Public License".

They submitted this to the OSI but then withdrew it. Fedora and other distributions have removed MongoDB because it doesn't meet their standards for open source. Bruce Perens, one of the authors of the Open Source Definition (in the ZDNet article linked from the Wikipedia "MongoDB" page) said "Just don't call it Open Source". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.109.4.101 (talk) 15:32, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

• I changed "open source" in the intro section to "source-available", as described on the MongoDB page. --Viktor Söderqvist (talk) 16:04, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Requested Changes & Expansion

Hi. My name is Toni Bird and I work for MongoDB. In compliance with WP:COI, I would like to request an impartial editor consider the three edits/additions below.

:1. CIA backing concern section -> History section

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==CIA backing concern==MongoDB Inc., then known as 10gen, has received funding from the U.S. Government through the [[CIA]]-sponsored venture capital arm [[In-Q-Tel]]. This has been a source of concern in India.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/mongodb-startup-hired-by-aadhaar-got-funds-from-cia-vc-arm/articleshow/26755706.cms?prtpage=1|title=MongoDB startup hired by Aadhaar got funds from CIA VC arm|first1=Lison|last1=Joseph|date=Dec 3, 2013|publisher=[[The Economic Times]]}}</ref>

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In 2013, the Identification Authority of India adopted MongoDB's software to analyze registration trends for new identity documents used to obtain government benefits in India.<ref name="t735">{{cite web | last=Joseph | first=Lison | title=MongoDB startup hired by Aadhaar got funds from CIA VC arm | website=The Economic Times | date=December 3, 2013 | url=https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/mongodb-startup-hired-by-aadhaar-got-funds-from-cia-vc-arm/articleshow/26755706.cms?prtpage=1 | access-date=August 9, 2024}}</ref> This raised concerns of potential espionage, since at-the-time MongoDB was partially funded by the United States CIA venture capital arm, In-Q-Tel. As of 2013, there is no known evidence the CIA actually has any influence over MongoDB.<ref name="t735" />

Explanation: The current "CIA backing concern" section is very ambiguous and vague. It just says "This has been a source of concern in India." It also has a dedicated section contrary to WP:CRITS. My proposal is to remove the "CIA backing concern" section and replace it with the more specific description in the history section.

2. Expanding History

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The company's [[initial public offering]] was on October 20, 2017, and a secondary offering was held on June 29, 2021.<ref>{{Cite web |title= Prospectus Supplement for Run 424(b)(5) |date= June 30, 2021 |access-date= July 22, 2021 |url= https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1441816/000110465921087586/tm2120942-4_424b5.htm |publisher= US Securities and Exchange Commission }}</ref>

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By 2017, MongoDB had raised $311 million in funding from venture capitalists.<ref name="b646" /> MongoDB filed for an [[initial public offering]] on September 21, 2017 and went public on [[NASDAQ]] that October 20th.<ref name="x274">{{cite web | last=Novet | first=Jordan | title=MongoDB will raise $192 million in IPO, making it worth $1.2 billion | website=CNBC | date=October 19, 2017 | url=https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/18/mongodb-prices-its-ipo-worth-1-point-2b.html | access-date=August 9, 2024}}</ref> It raised $192 million, valuing the company at $1.6 billion overall.<ref name="b646">{{cite web | last=Bort | first=Julie | title=People told the MongoDB founders they were 'completely crazy' and now the company is worth $1.6 billion | website=Business Insider | date=October 20, 2017 | url=https://www.businessinsider.com/people-told-the-mongodb-founders-they-were-completely-crazy-2017-10 | access-date=August 9, 2024}}</ref> Its market capitalization varied greatly afterwards, reaching $39 billion in 2021 and coming back down to $10 billion by 2024.<ref name="k796">{{cite web | last=Sawers | first=Paul | title=MongoDB CEO Dev Ittycheria talks AI hype and the database evolution as he crosses 10-year mark | website=TechCrunch | date=April 28, 2024 | url=https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/28/mongodb-ceo-dev-ittycheria-interview-ai-hype-database-evolution/ | access-date=August 11, 2024}}</ref><ref name="g832">{{cite web | last=Ghosh | first=Shona | title=The founding CTO of a $3 billion company explains why it's vital he still gets his hands dirty coding | website=Business Insider | date=August 15, 2018 | url=https://www.businessinsider.com/mongodb-cto-eliot-horowitz-interview-2018-8 | access-date=August 10, 2024}}</ref> MongoDB acquired [[database engine]] company WiredTiger in 2014, followed by database-as-a-service company MLab for $68 million in 2018.<ref name="a658">{{cite web | last=Sawers | first=Paul | title=MongoDB to acquire cloud database provider MLab for $68 million | website=VentureBeat | date=October 10, 2018 | url=https://venturebeat.com/business/mongodb-to-acquire-cloud-database-provider-mlab-for-68-million/ | access-date=August 10, 2024}}</ref> The following year, in 2019, MongoDB acquired a mobile-focused database company called Realm for $39 million.<ref name="j571">{{cite web | last=Miller | first=Ron | title=MongoDB to acquire open-source mobile database Realm for $39 million | website=TechCrunch | date=April 24, 2019 | url=https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/24/mongodb-to-acquire-open-source-mobile-database-realm-startup-that-raised-40m/ | access-date=August 10, 2024}}</ref> In 2022, MongoDB established its own venture capital fund.<ref name="k796" />

Explanation: Expanding the History section with cited content

ToniBirdOne (talk) 15:26, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi @ToniBirdOne taking a look. This is a bit hard to read, so give me some time to dive in. Thanks. --FeldBum (talk) 22:21, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Just a brief note to say that (re: the first of the 2 proposed changes above) I feel that the sentence As of 2013, there is no known evidence the CIA actually has any influence over MongoDB is pointless as it is already 11 years out of date. Also, I do not believe that the opinions of the company's own employees have any bearing on whether or not there were concerns in India. Also I do not believe that the idea of "CIA backing concerns" is either very ambiguous or vague, as suggested by the COI editor above. It seems perfectly clear what is being stated by the section on "CIA backing concerns" and any suggestion to the contrary is spin pure and simple. Axad12 (talk) 21:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

I think that the existing section is somewhat violating WP:NPOV, and support the inclusion of the suggested replacement text. I don't think it's pointless adding something that is 11 years old, since it's still relevant as the outcome of the situation. I also agree with moving it into history per WP:CRIT unless anything additional to make it worthwhile and balanced for having it's own section is found. Encoded  Talk 💬 22:10, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

 Partly done: Since you've striked the above section I've not included that, but if you'd like it to be reviewed please feel free to unstrike it and reopen this request. Encoded  Talk 💬 09:35, 2 November 2024 (UTC)