Talk:Mokotów Prison executions of 1951

the executioner

I read,

All seven were shot on March 1, 1951 in the back of their heads, with five to ten minute intervals.

...and I wonder, what was the name of the executioner? Surely this information can be found somewhere? 86.62.106.225 (talk) 18:32, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

C-class

B-class failed: few inline references, short, no subsections. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 04:58, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Notability

The article as present does not establish notability of the event as a joint event. We presently have five sources in the article:

1. this mentions Batory's execution, but not the other 6.
2. this does not seem to mention any execution in 1951.
3. this is a dead link.
4. this mentions Cieplinski's death date and (I presume) last letter to his wife.
5. this mentions (by my count) 4 of the executions (inter spaced throughout the article) and mentions the event by linking back to the English Wikipedia.

It is not clear to me that the seven, together, are discussed as a joint event. Much of the contents in the article is not sourced, and one detail at least ( Piotr Śmietański being the executioner and emigrating to Israel) seems wrong due to other sources IPN, Polish Journal article, Polish newspaper stating he died on 23 Feb 1950, a year prior. The Polish Wikipedia does not seem to have an entry on the group, but it does list Aleksander Drej (here and in articles on some of the individuals) as the executioner (perhaps Drej would be a better article?). I'm not finding much in my BEFORE (definitely not in English, not finding much traction in Polish - though it's difficult since there is coverage on each individual). @Piotrus: - could you assess?Icewhiz (talk) 09:16, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

@Icewhiz: I assume you are questioning the notability of this topic. Hmmm. I found few webpages discussing this in Polish, but they are not high quality. [1] even states that it describes stuff based on Wikipedia (doesn't say which articles). I found a description of this event in a Polish Radio article: [2], and in some other relatively mainstream Polish portal, [3]. The article in [4] (minor historical portal) and some other state that this event is the justification for making 1st March a National Rememberance Day for Cursed Soldiers - pl:Narodowy Dzień Pamięci „Żołnierzy Wyklętych”. Sources in the Wiki article confirm this date was chosen indeed to reflect on those executions. The most academic source I've found is this, a brief description of the event and the remembrance day on a museum webpage. The event is also briefly described in academic publication from IPN at [5]. Since other sources discuss the executions as one event, it is not an OR synthesis, and I think this is notable. A historical footnote, yes, but I'd say let it be. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:10, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes - I was questioning the notability of the event as a group (not WP:V (seemed to pass on each one), but WP:NEVENT of discussion as a group), not the individual articles. I think an article on "Narodowy Dzień Pamięci „Żołnierzy Wyklętych" covering this event inside it (which does not seem to exist on enwiki) - would be better than this one - but per your comments I removed the tag. Might I suggest you add at least one of these citations to the article, as well as mentioning at least the national memorial day?Icewhiz (talk) 10:39, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

I believe above mentioned sources satisfy the question of notability.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 11:02, 20 March 2018 (UTC)