Talk:Mohammad Ilyas (cricketer, born 1996)

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This article consists of this source, converted from a table to prose with no other modification. The source is copyright and there's no indication that we have consent to copy it.—S Marshall T/C 16:13, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I am aware, raw score/appearance data/statistics are not copyrightable. ESPN Cricinfo does not own this information since it is also available from a multitude of alternative sources, e.g. Wisden, CricketArchive, PCB, etc. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 16:51, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If there are alternative sources, cite two of them! That demonstrates a GNG pass as well.—S Marshall T/C 17:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've listed three sites above – you are free to look them up yourself (although CA is paywalled). Since they are also merely raw stats, they do not constitute significant coverage or demonstrate a GNG pass. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 17:42, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
How would I find him on Wisden? I can't see how to distinguish him from other Mohammad Ilyases?—S Marshall T/C 17:48, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Date of birth and team played for can be used to differentiate. Wisden, Pakistan Cricket (uses the CA database), PCB. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 18:31, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's obviously not a copyvio. The line "He made his first-class debut for Lahore Blues in the 2018–19 Quaid-e-Azam Trophy on 16 September 2018" isn't directly mentioned in the biography itself, infact there's no mention of the "Quaid-e-Azam Trophy" on that specific page. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:28, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, you wrote an article on a living person containing unsourced material? ——Serial 17:48, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No. Re-read what I wrote, and the context it is written. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:55, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lugnuts is saying he used a source he didn't cite.—S Marshall T/C 18:00, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, he's not. I'm referencing the source in your original post (this source). That in itself does not mention the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 18:03, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are you counting two different pages of ESPNcric.info as two separate sources?—S Marshall T/C 18:08, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 18:10, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]