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life hard

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i just wanna talk 2601:145:0:2420:CC0D:D8F2:4AD2:81B7 (talk) 04:06, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I hear you! So you found one option, although it did take a while to get a response.
Here's another option, in case you're not aware of it: https://988lifeline.org/chat/ --John_Abbe (talk) 07:48, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Any reason not to change the name to Mobile Crisis Teams?

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That's what they're called nowadays, check the recent citations. John_Abbe (talk) 07:49, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relationship with Police crisis intervention team

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The relationship of this article with Police crisis intervention team is an important question. Some sources are at pains to differentiate them and pit them against each other as alternatives, where the distinguishing feature of "Mobile Crisis" is that it doesn't involve police. That's where we get section headings like "Interdisciplinary unarmed, first responder teams", which Malvoliox renamed to "List of mobile crisis teams". I think I would prefer that Mobile Crisis become the primary article on all forms of first responder services for mental health crises. That would make Police crisis intervention team a child article of this one in summary style. Both articles are very poor quality. If my proposal is accepted, than Malvoliox's edit is undesirable because that list was intending to be a more specific subset intentionally excluding police crisis intervention teams. Daask (talk) 01:24, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have always interpreted this (very new) article and terminology of a 'mobile crisis response' as specifically describing non-police mental health first responders. It's been described regularly as an alternative to a police response—if this is not consistent with sourcing, we would want to adjust the names, i would suppose.
If we wanted a single article for mental health emergency responses, I would assume it would need a different verbiage than mobile crisis, and it would need to make those distinctions (police vs. non-police responses, and likely also discussion of mental health dispatch, phone based programs, and mental health first aid). I've been super peripheral to the development of this article (following things specific to my own city initially), so it'd be helpful to know what kind of
I made the edit assuming the definitions provided elsewhere in the article are understood the same. Still, I think that the right way to title a list, if we have one and if we need a long description like "interdisciplinary unarmed, first responder teams" would maybe be to re-title as something even more neutral like "examples" and then include some description before the list, like
====Examples====
This is a non-exhaustive list of interdisciplinary unarmed first-responder teams for mental health crisis response.
  • example 1
  • example 2
(Etc.)
~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 03:38, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the tone of my prior remark may have been slightly different than I intended. I really don't care much what happens to this article in the short run or what the section heading is, because in my mind the article needs major reworking and rewriting anyhow. I mostly wanted to offer my impression of an issue underlying some of the oddities of this article. Daask (talk) 09:48, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got it! I agree that this is an unresolved issue, and most of the articles in this field need a lot of reworking. ~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 15:57, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]