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When?

When was the craft developed? --Compay 20:18, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The SEPECAT Jaguar and the F-1

"00:39, 4 December 2008 BillCJ (Talk | contribs) (6,751 bytes) (Removed incorrect item - Jaguar development began around same time as the T-2, on which F-1 is completely based; Jaguar not supersonic)"

http://www.faqs.org/docs/air/avt2f1.html

The T-2 was first proposed in 1967 after negotiations for a licensed production of the, as of yet, unbuilt SEPECAT Jaguar design (established in 1966) in Japan fell through. The single seat Jaguar proposed for the Japanese 'T-X' competition was an 'inspiration' for the indigenous Japanese designed trainer but remained a Japanese design. The F-1 is NOT a copy of the SEPECAT Jaguar, one has to simply compare the specifications and dimensions to see that the aircraft is different. The inclusion of the SEPECAT Jaguar as a 'related aircraft' is not in terms of performance or role but of design. Semi-Lobster (talk) 01:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The field is for "similar/comparable aircraft". By your own standard in removing the SOKO J-22 (also similar in design, and "inspired" by the Jaguar), the subsonic Jaguar, being, is not comparable. "Looking alike" is generally not enough for inclusion in that field, though it would be fine under the "See also" field. Hope that helps. - BillCJ (talk) 01:53, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhh... I thought you were disputing the 'connection' between the Jaguar and F-1, sorry about that. But I'm not sure if it could fit under 'Related development' either since that is usually reserved for aircraft developed to or from and the T-2, although borrowing concepts from the Jaguar design, was still a local design not 'directly' related to the Jaguar. Semi-Lobster (talk) 02:24, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not "Related development", as I agree they are not directly related. I was referring to the "See also" field, which is the bottom of the template. Sorry I was not more specific, as these fields can be a bit confusing at times. - BillCJ (talk) 02:34, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well both are subheaders under 'See Also' so I assumed they had to go into one of them. But if it can just go under 'See Also' without going under either of them without violating some sort of 'wikietiquette'. Thanks for the help! Semi-Lobster (talk) 03:07, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bill CJ

you reversed my changes to the F-1 page but is there any reasons for doing so? I believe at least most of my information was correct and that there was no reason to reverse these changes. The information you changed it back to are wrong and old. E.g. the F-1 was retired in 2006.

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The F-111 and its relevancy.

Rather than starting an edit war, I’ll instead voice my opinion here. Both the F-111 and the F-1 are (generally) attack/strike aircraft, both are of similar appearance and are often confused with one another, and both feature similar capabilities (except payload). As a result, I feel it falls under the “comparable role” and “era” category. Heyimastopsign (talk) 04:17, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]