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Support: I propose splitting into History of miscegenation with current regional and national headings; considering the term's offensiveness, alternative titles may be an improvement. Such split warrants reviewing current information to check for needed updates and inaccuracies. Exemplary is the Brazil section's semmingly original analysis of the 2010 census data and overreliance on Gilberto Freyre, an anthropologist and historian whose conceptualization of race in Brazil is controversial. XxTechnicianxX (talk) 23:45, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support: I just tried to read this article for the first time. It is very long, obviously, and it has an extremely offensive title. But it is also a very interesting and well researched discussion of the history of interracial personal relations. (We need to come up with a better title stat; I thought about interracial relationships, but I don't know if I want to use that as the title for an article that has so much discussion of situations where an enslaved person or war captive ends up having an interracial child in a situation where consent is dubious or frankly nonexistent. There are similar problems with mating, a term we usually used to describe animals procreating. Interracial procreation? I don't know. Splitting it up by culture or historical group might be good but since I am enjoying all of the sections together, perhaps having smaller sections that link to more detailed discussions of specific situations might be good. Because I'm a fast reader and there's no way I will finish this article tonight! Yaeltiferet (talk) 04:47, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So in other words, you are attempting to obfuscate the reality of situation, by giving it a more appealing name? Sounds like white fragility. Raininja (talk) 01:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, the entire section copy pasted into another article is still seven thousand words over the "you should split" limit on WP:TOOBIG (22,369). We might need to split the split by region. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:55, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also why is there two different pages, one for miscegenation and one for interracial marriage. Again both terms are unscientific because race is a social construct! It’s ridiculous to begin with and it’s not acceptable. Kanchan M Mahon (talk) 23:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The "Health risks" section (added 1st August 2024) seems to parrot anti-miscegenation propaganda that circulates in white suprematist circles. The entire section seems ideologically motivated (it even claimed that African Americans are "a hybrid species", as if Africans and Europeans were two different species). Sources should be checked and if found to be unreputable the whole section should be deleted. 109.54.1.122 (talk) 13:39, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly agree. Indeed, this paragraph
"Multi-racial Americans are the most likely to be diagnosed with a mental disorder. 34% of biracial individuals had been diagnosed with a psychological disorder as opposed to 17% of monoracial individuals. The higher rate held up even after adjusting for age, gender, and life stress. This disparity may be caused by miscegenation or outbreeding, rather than the environment or upbringing of biracial individuals"
is not supported by the source. First of all, the source only includes data from Asian Americans, and extrapolating to all biracial people is obviously invalid. Even if biracial people were more likely to be diagnosed with mental health disorders, if this were included in the article then it would need to be supported by a reliable source.
Furthermore the source does not suggest that the disparity may be due to "miscegenation". Indeed, the source says "Future research should investigate the factors that explain the higher rate of diagnosed psychological disorders among biracial Asian Americans, Zane said. Possibilities include influences of ethnic identification and experiences of ethnic discrimination.". In other words, it suggests the exact opposite of what the article is claiming.
Miscegenation: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia, Rather than engaging in personally attacks like you did here, Could you please explain what problem do you exactly have with the text and the source and how it is factually untrue:
The word is no longer commonly used because of its racist implications.[1]
Miscegenation&Usage, Nothing in the article suggests that this term is commonly used. And I am not "miscegenated" or mixed-race as you maybe assumed ("emotional ") in your edit summary. This is blatant WP:I don't like it.
I didn't expect this from an experienced editor. @DaltonCastle
You are jumping to several conclusions here. There were no personal attacks, but your edit history seems to suggest in your brief time on Wikipedia you have gotten into several disputes, made personal attacks against editors you disagreed with, and been warned about civility before. It would be best if you took a step back and reflected. If you are routinely engaging in edit wars maybe you are the common denominator.
As per the term, just because some people use the word does not mean that is the exclusive use of the word. The WP entry on the word is about the word. Not about your interpretation of it. The Nazis used the word Europe - should we consider use of the word Europe Nazi? Plus, the sources you found have dubious reliability at best. DaltonCastle (talk) 23:22, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am not engaging in this further because personally I don't have much interest in this topic and only stumbled upon it through PTPrime. About that incident of incivility, an experienced editor pinged me and I accepted and rectified my mistake. Theofunny (talk) 23:37, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While I do appreciate the civility here, I would like to note for any passers-by that the above user is currently under investigation for sock-puppetry. If they are innocent and there is nothing going on, no harm no foul. However, if they are indeed guilty of the accusation, then this would appear to be a means of appearing to be more compliant with WP policy. I am going to assume good faith until there is concrete evidence, but I am noting this. DaltonCastle (talk) 23:41, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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