Talk:Minnesota Young DFL

Proposed merge with Minnesota Democratic–Farmer–Labor Party

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The result of this discussion was no consensus LightSoup (talk) 20:58, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

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There appears to be a lack of reliable coverage for this group. Perhaps mentions in the main article should be enough. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:45, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

• Oppose - according to Wikipedia:Merging, there are several good reasons for merging articles and I don't feel any of them justify this proposed merger:

1. Duplicate: There are two or more pages on exactly the same subject, with the same scope.

-The two articles are not exactly the same.

2. Overlap: There are two or more pages on related subjects that have a large overlap. Wikipedia is not a dictionary; there does not need to be a separate entry for every concept. For example, "flammable" and "non-flammable" can both be explained in an article on flammability.

-The two articles may be about two affiliated organizations, but they serve two different functions (i.e. one is a political party, one is a youth organization)

3. Text: If a page is very short and is unlikely to be expanded within a reasonable amount of time, it often makes sense to merge it with a page on a broader topic. For example, parents or children of a celebrity who are otherwise unremarkable are generally covered in a section of the article on the celebrity (and can be merged there).

-The article may be short, but I wouldn't characterize it as very short. There are many articles on political youth organizations on Wikipedia that are shorter than this that cover the same basic information.

4. Context: If a short article requires the background material or context from a broader article in order for readers to understand it. For example, minor characters from works of fiction are generally covered in a "List of characters in <work>" article(and can be merged there); see also Wikipedia:Notability (fiction).

-The two articles do not need context from the other in order for the two to be understood.

Wikipedia:Merging also provides reasons to avoid merging:

1. The resulting article is too long or "clunky"

-If the current article would be copied over as is in a merger, the resulting article would be clunky.

2. The separate topics could be expanded into longer standalone (but cross-linked) articles

-This is very true. There is potential for the two article to be expanded separately.

3. The topics are discrete subjects warranting their own articles, even though they might be short

-As I said previously, even though the two organizations are affiliated, they serve two different functions. As I have also said previously, there are many articles on political youth organizations that are shorter than this one and so there is a precedent for articles like this to exist separately. LightSoup (talk) 20:13, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

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