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Hello @Katakana546

I am glad you are interested in editing this article. But I don’t understand why you removed the inline references - and I cannot figure out how the 2006 and 2015 refs relate to the text - can you explain? Chidgk1 (talk) 05:39, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dear @Chidgk1, the previous in-line references were Turkish language news articles that merely mentioned the name of the ministry and they weren't related to the topic in hand. I used the two general references below to mostly re-write the article, however, as you mentioned, I did not use in-line citations, and relied only on those two references. Therefore, I seer that there are various shortcomings of my version of the article, and it needs to be throuhgly checked and referenced. Katakana546 (talk) 18:00, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Katakana546 So do you think the article should first be rolled back to the previous version and/or will you be able to improve it in other ways? Chidgk1 (talk) 18:44, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Katakana546 I have rolled it back as although some of your change was useful I could not figure out how the cites you used supported the text - please could you redo as inline cites Chidgk1 (talk) 14:42, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Possible recent sources

https://neighbourhood-enlargement.ec.europa.eu/turkiye-report-2022_en#files Chapter 27

Needs further research e.g. why did the National Environment Agency mentioned above not become operational and how is it related to the ministry?

https://www.ft.com/content/6113a9d2-25d4-4329-bb6a-0a50b1cff30c Chidgk1 (talk) 19:07, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relationship with Ministry of Energy and Natural Resources?

@Katakana546 You wrote “It has announced plans to increase the use of renewable energy”. Where is that announcement please? In Energy in Turkey#External links there is the energy plan in Turkish and it is also available now in English. So are you saying it was announced by this ministry as well as the Energy Ministry? I would not be surprised if that happened but we need a cite. And why has the link to the Climate Change and Air Management Coordination Board (Turkey) been removed from the article? I realise it was criticised but how are the ministries supposed to co-ordinate nowadays do you know? Chidgk1 (talk) 19:30, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is no formal agreement between ministries on cooperation in Turkey, instead the ministers act from an intentionalist perspective rather than from a structalist one. Policies are mere suggestions and the directives of the presidential palace are always to be taken as the final decision. I cannot provide you a source backing my claim right now, as I'm talking from a mere anecdotal perspective in this forum board. However, I do not oppose the removal of the link to Climate Change and Air Management Coordination Board (Turkey), and you can add it back as you like. Additionally, the cooperation (or lack thereof) itself could/should be discussed in the article as well. Katakana546 (talk) 14:09, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes as you seem knowlegable on the subject if you are able to add inline cited info to the article that would be great Chidgk1 (talk) 14:57, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]