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I believe the origin of this celebration is the anniversary (Hiloula) of the death of Maimon (father of Rambam/Maimonides) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.89.125 (talk) 16:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

87.194.83.80 (talk) 17:22, 22 March 2009 (UTC)If it commemorates the death of Maimon, and was celebrated on t he day after Passover in Morrocco, then why isn't it celebrated two days after Passover in Israel where the holiday is one day less?[reply]

Politics?

"Over the last few decades, the Mimouna has become a public relations tool for Israeli politicians, who use it as an opportunity to mingle with the masses and drum up public support."

Isn't every major holiday used as a public relations tool by politicians? This line could be added to Christmas, Easter, MLK Day, Presidents Day, and every other major holiday in the US. If this line isn't included for those holidays, why here? I vote for deletion. MG196 12:13, 6 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mg196 (talk • contribs)

Who celebrates this holiday?

The article uses the terms Moroccan, Maghrebi, and North African interchangeably. Which one is it? These are three distinct regions. The Maghreb is within North Africa and Morocco is within the Maghreb. --PiMaster3 ^talk 18:57, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology - The Goldberg criticism

First, two preambles:

here's the text that I removed: This derivation has been criticised as folkloric, because it is found at both ends of North Africa, and there is almost no possible way that every North African Jew heard of Maimon ben Yosef's death at the same time, to establish the same day for his yahrtzeit.^[1]
because I converted the format of the references, the actual citation to the Goldberg journal article remains in the wikipedia artcle.

I went and read the Goldberg reference, and his criticism is not against the reason cited in the article, but to a variation of it. The etymology that Goldberg criticises is that the Mimouna marks the date when news of Maimon's death arrived in Morocco. The article states the reason as the date of Maimon's yahrtzeit, not the date of the shemua (date a person first heard of the petira). —Boruch Baum (talk) 03:09, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Goldberg, 1978

Etymology - The Second Goldberg criticism

I've read the referenced article, and I don't see that Goldberg is saying what's claimed in the article. here's the text that I've deleted:

However, this is also most likely another inaccurate origin story for the holiday. It is "not based on the cited motivations" of Moroccan Jews before the State of Israel's founding: Moroccan Jews connect Passover, not Mimouna, to the Talmudic prediction of the Messiah coming in Nisan because of Passover's Biblical origins and its redemptive nature, as seen in God's assistance in the Exodus from Egypt.^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boruch Baum (talk • contribs) 03:32, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Goldberg, 1978

References

Boruch Baum Please rework the sources. It looks like a mess and there are duplication/mistakes. It is Elkin or Enkin? 2005 or 2015? Use < ref name = ??? > to downsize the list. Settleman (talk) 06:31, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Settleman: Will do. Sorry. —Boruch Baum (talk) 11:47, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How about njewish agency? are they all 2015 or 2005? Settleman (talk) 12:58, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Settleman: Two different pages on same site. And the other criticism has been addressed and fixed. —Boruch Baum (talk) 13:13, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not criticism. Comment. And thank you for straightening the references. Settleman (talk) 15:46, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Quite welcome. No need to sugar-coat with me - I don't get defensive about criticisms, especially when constructive and on-point. Regards. —Boruch Baum (talk) 16:28, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

As https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Mimouna&diff=next&oldid=1141061437&diffmode=source shows at 02:21 on 13 April 2023 an anonymous editor changed the text and citations in 7 places, replacing Morocco, Moroccan and marocaine with European, Ashkenaz, Poland, ashkénaze and européenne. I don't have time to revert everything now. Perhaps Mooonswimmer, Trialpears or someone else could revert the edits. Mcljlm (talk) 07:21, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts completed. Mcljlm (talk) 20:59, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Goldberg, 1978

[2] Goldberg, 1978

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