Talk:Military junta

Trotsky

If Leo Trotsky took power over Russia after winning the Civil War, would Russia have been known as a Millitary Junta? -G

Japan

Would the bakufu in Japan have been a junta? 204.52.215.107 (talk) 22:03, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure about that. Judging from my look at it, the bakufu appears to have been more of a feudal and monarchial system, with power revolving around the shogun's family (with the emperor being the nominal monarch and the shogun being the de facto monarch). 204.52.215.107 (talk) 22:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

does this seem really biased? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.236.143 (talk) 06:11, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

North Korea

Should we put North Korean National Defence commission as military junta? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Barciur (talk • contribs) 01:06, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Fiji?

If we define a "military junta" as "a government led by a committee of military leaders", then Fiji may not fit the bill. The government in Fiji is still composed of civilians as well as military officers. I don't know who's replacing Nailatikau at Indigenous Affairs, but Sayed-Khaiyum, Luveni, Bole and Cokanasiga are civilians. Of course, its leader is a military man, and it's clear that the military is very much in control of the country, but what we have is more of an "unelected mixed civilian and military government with a military leader" than a junta by the proposed definition. I've been collecting press articles on Fiji's politics for several years now, from various media, and, in literally hundreds of articles, I have only one in which the word "junta" is used. It's an opinion piece in the Fiji Times, from March 2008; you can find it here. A quick Google search comes up with a few others (in the New Zealand Herald, in The Age and The Irish Times, where the word is used briefly, without further comment or definition, by journalists). I can find no mention of politicians (in Fiji or elsewhere) using the word, nor academics. On the whole, it seems to be little used. Sufficiently for the word to be used as fact in a Wikipedia article? I leave it to my fellow editors to consider it. It seems to me unsourcable, except if we use the undeveloped opinion of a small number of journalists as a factual source; Wikipedia policy would seem to disagree with presenting unsourcable opinion as hard fact. (And if there are no comments in reply to this in a week or so, I'll probably remove Fiji from the article.) Aridd (talk) 08:58, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Niger

The elections in Niger have just been held. These are democratic elections and thus the new President will not be a military Junta. Niger should be removed. 1 Nigerien presidential election, 2011 --Smart30 (talk) 02:29, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Central African Republic

I think that CAR is not a military junta; who is in power is not the army, but a former rebel group. Yes, can be argued that these former rebel group is a kind of "army", but, by this criteria we should consider "military juntas" all case when an armed rebellion takes power - like Mao in China, Fidel in Cuba, the Taliban in Afghanistan, the Khmer Rouge in Cabodja etc, etc. I think usually the expression "military junta" are only used when it is the "official" army who seizes power.--MiguelMadeira (talk) 19:28, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Disagree. The "former" rebel group has made itself as the military when took power. And to take note, that country is still without Constitution. B.Lameira (talk) 23:23, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

The same with Taliban, Khmer Rouge, Patet Lao, Rwadan Patriotic Front,Ugadan National Resistence Army, etc., etc., , and these governments (present or past) are not usually considered military juntas.--MiguelMadeira (talk) 13:29, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Merging Military Junta into Stratocracy?

Aren't Military Junta and Stratocracy basically the same thing, but just said with an other word? Wikipedia also considers Military Junta a stub, so maybe it should be merged into Stratocracy as a section?

Hyshinara (talk) 19:20, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Maybe I've been too hasty:
Stratocracy reads that "the state and the military are traditionally or constitutionally the same entity", in contrast to a Military Junta, where (I guess) it just might have been a militaristic political party that got democratically elected and now has political majority. (or, you know, a coup d'état, that works too :P )

Hyshinara (talk) 20:07, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Egypt

I have added Egypt to the current juntas as the countries government is appointed by a military junta just as Fiji's is. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:45, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Ukriane

As no one else has made a case I shall ask them to/

Explain how the Ukraine (which holds democratic elections) is a military Junta based upon two organizations that are not in fact its government? Slatersteven (talk) 13:38, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Note, if IP's keep on adding this back without discussion and gaining wp:consensus I will ask for PP. Slatersteven (talk) 13:56, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

PP now asked for. Slatersteven (talk) 10:15, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Former list

Per WP:PRESERVE

Bold indicates a current military junta.

Africa

• Burkina Faso – Patriotic Movement for Safeguard and Restoration (2022–present)
• Chad – Transitional Military Council (2021–2022), Transitional Administration (2022–present)
• Egypt – Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (2011–2012)
• Ethiopia – Derg (1974–1987)
• Gabon – Committee for the Transition and Restoration of Institutions (2023–present)
• Guinea – National Committee of Reconciliation and Development (2021–present)
• Liberia – People's Redemption Council (1980–1984)
• Libya – Revolutionary Command Council (1969–1977)
• Mali – National Committee for the Salvation of the People (2020–2021), Transitional Administration (2021–present)
• Niger – National Council for the Safeguard of the Homeland (2023–present)
• Nigeria – Military juntas (1966–1979 and 1983–1999)
• Sudan – Transitional Military Council (2019), Transitional Sovereignty Council (2021–present)

Americas

• Argentina – Argentine Revolution (1966–1973), National Reorganization Process (1976–1983)
• Bolivia – Bolivian military juntas (1970–1971 and 1980–1982)
• Brazil – Brazilian military juntas of 1930 and 1969
• Chile – Government Junta (1973–1990)
• Colombia – Military Junta (1957–1958)
• Ecuador – Military Junta (1963), Supreme Council of Government (1976-1979)
• El Salvador – Civic Directory (1931), Junta of Government (1960–1961), Civic-Military Directory (1961–1962), Revolutionary Government Junta (1979–1982)
• Guatemala – Junta of the 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état
• Haiti – Junta of the 1991 Haitian coup d'état (1991–1994)
• Nicaragua – Junta of National Reconstruction (1979–1985)
• Peru – Military junta (1962–1963), Revolutionary Government of the Armed Forces of Peru (1968–1980), Military junta (1989–2000)
• Uruguay – Military junta (1973-1985)
• Venezuela – Military junta (1948–1958)

Asia

• Bangladesh – Military governments of Ziaur Rahman (1975–1981) and Hussain Muhammad Ershad (1982–1990)
• China (Republic of) – Temporary Provisions against the Communist Rebellion (1948–1991) used by the Kuomintang after the fall of mainland China to the Communists
• Indonesia – Military government of Suharto, also known as the New Order (1966–1998)
• Myanmar – Union Revolutionary Council (1962-1974), State Peace and Development Council (1988–2011), State Administration Council (2021–present)
• Pakistan – Military governments of Ayub Khan (1958–1969), Yahya Khan (1969–1971), Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq (1977–1988), Pervez Musharraf (1999–2008)
• South Korea – Military governments of Park Chung Hee (1962–1979), Chun Doo-hwan (1980-1988)
• Thailand – National Peace Keeping Council (1991–1992), Council for National Security (2006–2008), National Council for Peace and Order (2014–2019)

Europe

• Bulgaria – 1934 Bulgarian coup d'état (1934–1935)
• Georgia – Military Council of the Republic of Georgia (6 January–10 March 1992)
• Greece – Regime of the Colonels, officially the "Revolutionary Committee" (1967–1974)
• Poland – Military Council of National Salvation (1981–1983)
• Portugal – National Salvation Junta (1974–1975)
• Turkey – National Unity Committee (1960–1961), Council for National Security (1980–1983)

Oceania

• Fiji – Military government of Frank Bainimarama (2006–2014)

References

@Mach61: Such a "list of military juntas" is unsustainable, setting precedent from military dictatorship which has achieved good article status without being a list of military dictatorships as it formerly was PizzaKing13 ^¡Hablame! 20:37, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

@PizzaKing13 why would it be "unsustainable"? The current list isn't that large, and even if it were the correct thing to do would still be to WP:SIZESPLIT into a new article. Why does this article need to be in alignment with the military dictatorship article? Mach61 21:09, 12 March 2024 (UTC)