Talk:Miles (given name)

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Removal of uncited statements

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Hello User:Bookworm857158367 -- the material I removed was not cited and I did not delete any citations, and specifically, statements such as a Norman French name "Initially, it performed as a diminutive form of Slavic two -part names with a Miło- particle - e.g. Miłobrat, Miłogost, Miłosław." and "Development of the name might also have been influenced by" have no basis in fact nor is there a citation supporting it. Here is the text of what I removed from the article:

Initially, it performed as a diminutive form of Slavic two -part names with a Miło- particle - e.g. Miłobrat, Miłogost, Miłosław. From the 19th century it has been performing alone. During time, it was influenced by ''miles'', the [[Latin language|Latin]] word for a [[soldier]]. [[Milo (name)|Milo]], the variant of the name used most often during the [[Middle Ages|medieval era]], might also have been influenced by the Slavic ending word element ''-mil'', meaning ''[[Courtesy|gracious]]''

and

Development of the name might also have been influenced by the [[Persian language|Persian]] name Mylas, meaning [[Bravery|brave]].

I am removing the uncited information again, and please add specific citations showing a connection between the Norman French name "Miles" and various Slavic roots and names. Please continue any discussion here.

Best, BCorr|Брайен 13:30, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, the statements you removed are cited with the dictionary and the Cleveland Kent Evans article. I did not think a citation after every single sentence was necessary when the citation followed the paragraph in which the information from the same source was provided. Do not remove cited material.--Bookworm857158367 (talk) 14:19, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the explanation and the additional references -- that is very helpful. I can now see that the problematic stamens was "Initially, it performed as a diminutive form of Slavic two -part names with a Miło- particle - e.g. Miłobrat, Miłogost, Miłosław. From the 19th century it has been performing alone." This sentence is not in the properly cited Oxford Dictionary of First Names as is evident from this search and this search. -- Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 18:05, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Enough. Check the citations. The relevant quote from the Oxford dictionary:"There is a common Slavic name element mil 'grace, favour,' with which it may possibly have some connection." The relevant passage from the Evans article: "The origin of the name Miles is obscure. when the Normans conquered England in 1066, they brought along a name written "Milo" in Latin and "Mile" in English. Unlike most Norman names, it's not Germanic, but possibly related to "miku" ("gracious"), a word found in Slavic names like Milan and Bogumil." --Bookworm857158367 (talk) 18:34, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've restored the original version from January. Someone altered the article and deleted some information and added other data without citing it. The bottom line is that the Slavic element is mentioned in the sources, but the name also owes its present form to Latin and Irish sources.--Bookworm857158367 (talk) 18:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]