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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Launchballer talk 23:52, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that after 6 years and more than 4,700 films for older audiences, Nollywood released a children's film, Mikolo, in 2023?
Source: Medium: Titiloye, Ladipo (24 August 2023). "Why Niyi Akinmolayan's Mikolo is Nigeria's Most Important Film of the Year". "from the 2nd quarter of 2017 to the 1st quarter of 2021, Nigeria produced 4,730 movies and none were for children. Two years after 2021, there were still no Nigerian films for children."
- ALT1: ... that a critic called family film Mikolo the most important Nigerian film of 2023, after Nollywood released no child-friendly films over 6 years?
  Source: Medium: Titiloye, Ladipo (24 August 2023). "Why Niyi Akinmolayan's Mikolo is Nigeria's Most Important Film of the Year". - quotes:
  (Re. "most important"): "Nollywood has something for the kids, and that’s why it is the most important film of the year. With this film, we can look forward to a new beginning where Nigerian stories are not for adults alone or stuck in PG16."
  (Re. volume:) "from the 2nd quarter of 2017 to the 1st quarter of 2021, Nigeria produced 4,730 movies and none were for children. Two years after 2021, there were still no Nigerian films for children."
- ALT1a: ... that a critic called family film Mikolo the most important Nigerian film of 2023, after Nollywood released no child-friendly films over 6 years in which thousands of films were produced?
  Source: Medium: Titiloye, Ladipo (24 August 2023). "Why Niyi Akinmolayan's Mikolo is Nigeria's Most Important Film of the Year". - quotes:
  (Re. "most important"): "Nollywood has something for the kids, and that’s why it is the most important film of the year. With this film, we can look forward to a new beginning where Nigerian stories are not for adults alone or stuck in PG16."
  (Re. volume:) "from the 2nd quarter of 2017 to the 1st quarter of 2021, Nigeria produced 4,730 movies and none were for children. Two years after 2021, there were still no Nigerian films for children."
- Reviewed: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Matt_Stoller
- Comment: Created on the 16th, and today's the 23rd, so meets (just) the timing requirement, and for strict measure of hours, I trust we can flex for this case - it will introduce some readers to not just an article on an interesting hybrid format film but also to a massive (but little-known-in-the-North) film source, Nollywood, the 2nd biggest in the world by number of productions - and the film itself is one of a very small number from vast Africa on the global streaming platforms.

Created by SeoR (talk). Self-nominated at 19:52, 23 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mikolo (film); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

@SeoR: This would be an interesting hook. Unfortunately I question the reliability of the current sourcing, particularly the most used sources such as this Medium post (the author's other posts include "10 Reasons You Should Use ChatGPT To Create Content") and BellaNaija (which has not just no byline, but no named staff). There appear to be better sources out there: [1], [2]. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 21:36, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Hameltion, and I will look into those right away. Medium has very mixed content, it is true, and while I think these are all genuine (and local) sources, those two are indeed not ideal, and I will check for substitutes. It is probable that there are more sources in various of Nigeria's many languages, but I have not found them (and unfortunately the Hausa and Yoruba wikis are rather smaller than EN, and have not got to this topic yet, or they might offer more). I had hoped that since the film was on a global platform, there would be more reviews / commentaries, but as yet, only inadmissible IMDB, no RT or similar. I will ping when I've done some further work, as I also really like the concept here. SeoR (talk) 23:04, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Those were nice links, thanks, and there is also, from this Nollywood Reporter, [3], but none of these covers the really remarkable point that this whole cinematic complex, turning out 000s of films, lacks kids' movies. I will try to find more. I can also think on new hooks, referencing Nigeria and global platforms, or some less striking but still interesting point. SeoR (talk) 23:13, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Hameltion: Have your concerns been resolved? Are you able to provide a full review? Z1720 (talk) 15:08, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720: No, there have been no edits to the article. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 15:25, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SeoR: Please address the above concerns. Z1720 (talk) 02:24, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks both Hameltion and Z1720, I will have one more go at this. I studied the existing source for this point, and they do seem to be a regular commentator, but I do see the "question mark" issues. Unfortunately, despite many articles covering the film, I have not yet found one covering quite the same point, but I have finally found an abstract of one saying "first kids film", so I will try to source that; I have also ordered a library book on Nollywood, which I will pick up Monday. SeoR (talk) 02:36, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SeoR: Have you finished addressing the concerns in the article? I am also surprised that there is no critical commentary section of the article, outlining what reviewers thought about the film. Z1720 (talk) 19:13, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Z1720, I will add such a section, though, despite its Amazon Prime launch, and some in-system promotion, there is a lack of reviews from outside Nigeria. As to the main issue, I fear I may have to withdraw the DYK nomination, as the marquee idea, that this film is one of very few children's films among thousands of releases in all, is not cited widely in RS, and we can't synthesise it (multiple sources allow a reader to conclude so, but only by implication). SeoR (talk) 23:51, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]