Talk:Mike Chitwood

Portland, Maine police chief

I'm surprised there is nothing on his earlier career here. We still remember him in Maine—he's damn good at his job. 172.101.3.109 (talk) 03:04, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Any relatives in Missouri?

I am related to Chitwoods and Burnhams in Missouri. 67.216.245.93 (talk) 13:16, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Removed misleading content

The sources cited don't back up an editor's claim that the subject of this article performed in drag or is known as the "cross-dressing sheriff". I've removed this content, and I invite the editor to discuss the matter further here and gain a consensus before attempting to re-add the content. See the brief conversation at User talk:ZebulonMorn for context. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 19:08, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

@ZebulonMorn re-added the content that I removed. I inspected each of three sources in the “Drag career” section and none of them talk about the subject performing in drag. Calling the performances “drag” is WP:SYNTH. I’ll remove the content again. Also, I’ll invite the editor (once again) to discuss the matter further here and gain a consensus before attempting to re-add the content. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 21:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Once again, @ZebulonMorn re-added the content that I removed. The “drag career” section doesn’t contain any citations to sources that describe the subject performing in drag. This is the third time I’m inviting the editor (@ZebulonMorn:) to discuss the matter further here and gain a consensus before attempting to re-add the content. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 21:36, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

I live in the Volusia County, as well. Chitwood is famous for his performances. It was downplayed for a while, but "neo-nazis" uncovered the photos and ran with it. Chitwood embraced his history and residents respected his courage. His nickname is also frequently used in the press, as sourced. All work is sourced by credible sites. The fact "neo-nazis" attempted to use this information against the sheriff is also sourced. Regardless of controversy, the information is accurate, unbiased, and worthy of mentioning. It's unfortunate that attempts to discuss Chitwood's drag career are regarded as "neo-nazism". Drag is not something to be ashamed of or embarrassed of. I hope the requests for change are mostly out of a desire to stop "facsists", but I suspect some attempts to delete are based out of homophobia/transphobia, a fear his past could hurt his electability, or they may simply not like seeing a "cross dressing sheriff" and would rather the information be deleted. Additionally, the notability of an elected official performing publicly in drag is obvious. ZebulonMorn (talk) 21:47, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

The sources that you’ve added don’t say the word “drag”. Because there are no sources that say the word “drag”, it’s inappropriate to add a section to this article called “drag career”. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 21:50, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

I believe the NYT sources has drag, but I will amend the section article. "Cross dressing career" acceptable? ZebulonMorn (talk) 21:52, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

No. Neither article uses the words “cross dressing” in the article’s own voice. And do you have a source that describes anything that you’re trying to add as a “career”? —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 21:55, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

I added another source, , of Chitwood referencing himself as the "Cross Dressing Sheriff" and posting pictures of himself cross dressing on X. Source also directly and independently confirms his cross-dressing. ZebulonMorn (talk) 22:04, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

This new source still doesn’t call him a “cross dressing sheriff”. It says that white supremacists call him a “cross dressing sheriff”. There’s a difference there. The article does say that he “posted pictures of himself in bras”, but it doesn’t use the terms “cross dressing” or “drag” in the article’s own voice. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 22:23, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

The title does read "'Cross Dressing Sheriff' Responds To White Supremacist Group With More Pictures Of Himself Cross Dressing". The "more pictures of himself cross-dressing" part of the title is referring to pictures Chitwood posted of himself and they describe it as cross-dressing. ZebulonMorn (talk) 22:28, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

I’m not sure that we should use a headline as a reliable source. The article’s text is written by the journalist… the article’s title is written as click bait. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 22:31, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

If the source isn't reliable, we can remove it, but the article's body doesn't dispute the headline. The headline also refers to him as "Cross Dressing Sheriff" without any reference to his name or position in the title.

Chitwood also embraced the "nickname" on Facebook and said he was proud to perform many times for charity. https://www.facebook.com/sheriffchitwood/posts/760629925420455?ref=embed_post ZebulonMorn (talk) 22:36, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Again, the editor is acting without a consensus.

Further, the sources that the editor provided don't describe any action hat the subject took as "cross-dressing" or a "cross-dressing performance".

The image that the editor added is from WESH... I don't know how to validate its licensing, but I doubt it's okay to add to Wikipedia.

The fact that the subject wore a bra for a breast-cancer fundraiser isn't notable. The content that this editor is repeatedly trying to add to the article simply doesn't belong in an encyclopedic article about a politician.A Also, the Daily Caller isn't an acceptable source for Wikipedia at all. See WP:DAILYCALLER. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 00:17, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

He was hardly dressed in "drag". He wore a bra several times as a fundraising event for charity for breast cancer research/awareness. These bras were auctioned for $ to support the charity. Fundraising organizations have found that men modeling these attract more attention and more $. Wearing the bra for fundraising is one way of showing the topic of breast cancer awareness does not have the taboo it once did. It is not indicative of cross dressing or support of LGBTQIA+-/:-) rights. Buffs (talk) 20:01, 4 December 2024 (UTC)