Talk:Miguel Nazar Haro

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A problematic article

There are a number of problems with this article. Fortunately it does not fall under BLP, since Nazar died in 2012, so it doesn't need a super urgent patchup. For now, I'll just note that the claim that Nazar was LITEMPO-12 is not supported by the source, the GWU National Security Archives. Poking around, it seems that it was Jefferson Morley who believed there is "strong evidence" that this was the case. If that is the case, why cite the NSArchives? Consider the claim and the bogus source deleted. If this is all there is, the claim should be deleted from the CIA cryptonym article as well.

In addition, while it is correct that Nazar was (apparently) charged with involvement in a car theft ring in the U.S. the statement that "He was summoned to appear in court in San Diego, found guilty and imprisoned" is flatly contradicted by the source, which says that Nazar was charged, put up bail, and promptly left the country. Why Nazar went to San Diego and the details of the charges is very unclear. This needs a real source, not the poorly translated, no-head no-tail bit used here. Unfortunately this is a very old story; I'll poke around and see what I can find, in the meantime consider this deleted as well. Rgr09 (talk) 07:11, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The claim that "Nazar was known to be in close contact with CIA station chief Winston M. Scott in the past" is also not confirmed in the sources given, and even if it were so, why is it notable that a Mexican security officer was in contact with the Mexico city CIA station chief? Deleted as well. Rgr09 (talk)

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Nazar as LITEMPO-12 again

The article was revised to again claim that NAZAR was a CIA 'asset', LITEMPO-12. No fewer than four sources are given for this claim. There are problems with all four of these sources.

LITEMPO: The CIA's Eyes on Tlatelolco This is an article by Jefferson Morley at the National Security Archive. It merely says LITEMPO-12 was 'an unidentified subordinate of Gutiérrez Barrios'. Nazar is not mentioned on this article.

The Spy Who Loved Me. This is an article by Jefferson Morley on a lawsuit by Michael Scott, Winston Scott's son. It does not mention LITEMPO or Nazar at all.

Six Questions for Jefferson Morley on Our Man in Mexico This is a blog post from Harper's Magazsine. It does not mention LITEMPO or Nazar at all.

Documenta periodista "la cercanía de la CIA con el poder en México" This is an article from the Mexican newspaper La Jornada on Morley's biography of Win Scott, "Our Man in Mexico". La Jornada states "Nazar Haro era identificado como Litempo 12." Where, when, or how, it does not say.

None of these sources are acceptable for this claim. I deleted all of this material once. I will now delete it again. I will leave the claim that Nazar was LITEMPO-12 up for now, but I will mark as 'citation needed'. Please do not add these four irrelevant or unsupported citations into the article again. Rgr09 (talk) 11:53, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No one has put anything up to support the claim since the last writing. I have accordingly deleted the claim. Rgr09 (talk) 12:36, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drug corruption claim

The article originally included the following paragraph:

Under his command, the DFS was accused by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration of protecting drug lords and their traffic operations.^[1]

References

^ "10 claves para conocer quién fue Miguel Nazar Haro". adnpolitico.com. Retrieved 7 September 2015.

The source for this claim is still available on the wayback internet archive, but the article discusses claims of DFS corruption in the Kiki Camarena murder in 1985. Nazar Haro was relieved as head of DFS in 1982. The claim as it stands is thus incorrect, so I have removed it. Rgr09 (talk) 12:36, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "10 claves para conocer quién fue Miguel Nazar Haro". adnpolitico.com. Retrieved 7 September 2015.

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