Talk:Mighty Bruins

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USC lyrics

My objection to having these here is not because I'm a UCLA alum, but because it serves no real purpose except to disparage its subject, and I would raise the same objection for any other school's fight song page as well. I wouldn't be surprised if other Pac-10 schools have their own lyrics for UCLA fight songs; if we include USC's, wouldn't we have to include the others (if they exist)? Additionally, there's no way for us to tell if the web site that's referenced contains an "official" (or at least generally accepted) version of said lyrics; how do we know that it's not just some guy's or some frat's or whatever? That being said, I don't object to having the external link to them so that anyone who wants to read them can do so. So I'm taking them out of the article. If you disagree, please have the discussion here and I'll put them back in if consensus dictates that I should. howch e ng {chat} 06:36, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another good reason for excluding them is simply their vulgarity. Not that I'm opposed to vulgarity per se, but really, leaving them in only accomplishes one real thing: Showing the world how stupid and full of themselves SC students are. As a lifelong Bruin, I can't say that wouldn't please me, but I'll take the high road and try and protect their reputation too. howch e ng {chat} 23:15, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree. Having alternate lyrics here is about as appropriate as talking about how the USC fight song has three notes on their page.Attakmint 11:25, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Question though, since lyrics are generally covered under copyright law (and are source text, which Wikipedia doesn't cover), why are there lyrics here in the first place? Radiant_>|< 11:32, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - You're right. I'll excise them. howch e ng {chat} 17:43, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Having been a member of a pac 10 marching band, User:Howcheng's supposition that every band/school has alternative lyrics for every other schools fight songs is correct. And they are all not of encyclopedic value to wikipedia (in my opinion). Let alone getting a reliable source for them. --Rocksanddirt 21:09, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have not been here in some time evidently... This thread seems funny, since the alternate lyrics to Fight On are even more distasteful, and older. The effort to collect all the alternate disparaging school song lyrics would be the equivalent of collecting all the versions of The Aristocrats. Group29 (talk) 13:11, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Other Fight songs

By The Old Pacific

From the Cal Band Web site: "By the Old Pacific's Rolling Waters" (known more simply as "By"), written by Thomas V. Beall, is one of Cal's more colorful songs. Written as a fight song for UCLA in the 1940's, it was originally known as "Rally Song" and "Mighty Bruin Bear." In earlier years, it was not uncommon for rival schools to play each other's songs; when an opposing band was unable to attend a Cal home game, the Cal Band would often face the opposing team's fans and play their fight song. Quite likely, "By" may have initially become part of the repertoire in this way.

Traditionally, the Band parades from Memorial Stadium through the campus and streets of Berkeley after a home football game. On the way, the Band passes by Bowles Hall, a gothic, all-male residence hall, stops, and plays "By" for the Bowlesmen, who have adopted the tune of "By" for their own "Bowles Hall Drinking Song." The tradition of playing "By" for Bowles Hall is said to have begun back when the entire football team lived there. The band would play for the players as they walked back to their dorm after the game.

Eventually the football team moved out of Bowles Hall, but the Cal Band would still occasionally stop in front of the dorm after a game and play for the Bowlesmen. One day, as legend has it, the Band refused to play "By" as they marched passed Bowles Hall, so the Bowlesmen ran in front of the Band and laid upon the ground to stop the Band from moving forward and to "encourage" them to play their drinking song. Apparently it worked. Group29 (talk) 13:11, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request for deletion: Uphill battle

There was a bad-faith mass deletion request. As I stated in 2008 on the Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Marching_band#Notability_of_fight_songs section: From a discussion on merging The Victors article into the main University of Michigan article on the Talk:University of Michigan page: As a song, The Victors is notable without even being placed into the category of Fight Songs. It was named in Wikipedia:Centralized_discussion/Fight_songs as an example of a notable fight song. The article itself has a ref from the New York Times. Template:Big Ten fight songs is one of many places that refer to the song and other Big Ten songs directly. The sports articles use a template similar to Template:NCAAFootballSchool where the fight song has its own link. The actual bar of notability in Wikipedia is not set that high should the question arise again. Group29 (talk) 22:16, 12 March 2008 (UTC) Group29 (talk) 13:19, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]