Talk:Midori (web browser)
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[edit]I disagreed with the Wikipedia:Proposed deletion template, and removed it. The article was proposed for deletion because of lack of attribution. Well, right now the article only lists features of the program, and they can be found in the project's official site. If that isn't a reliable source, I wonder what is such. The official site likely lists the features of the program more correctly than Internet blogs or news sites.
By the way, there are articles about the program in several Linux blogs, because Midori is nowadays part of Ubuntu Linux distribution.[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] That gives some notability for the program. 82.203.170.158 (talk) 16:26, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
What's more it's part of XFCE now. Seems like good notability to me too. [8] Lloeki (talk) 13:40, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Gallery images
[edit]The gallery needs to be fixed so that the acid2 and acid3 images display properly (they're cut off as it is now). I can't quite figure out how to fix this...too much of a WP newb, I guess. --Luinfana (talk) 20:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Despite the display properties of the acid2/3 image, there should be an decision, if these pictures are necessary. A notice in written form and link to the Acid3 test page should be fully sufficient. Deleting and undoing again and again is no solution.
Midori?
[edit]Midori means Green in Japanese. Isn't that an obvious reference to the main page? It's green-ish, and it seems like this name was chosen for a choice? Anyone else agree? moocowsrule 05:38, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
crossplatform?
[edit]it claims it is crossplatform, but i do not see any windows or mac downloads, do i have to compile it from source on those os or is it linux only? if so it should be changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebbex (talk • contribs) 18:45, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- It is not Linux-only, as it certainly works on FreeBSD and possibly other BSDs, too, plus probably on other UNIX-like platforms. It could probably work on Windows and Mac OS X, too (like other GTK+ programs), but there are no precompiled binaries available.—J. M. (talk) 21:22, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- It is cross-platform from a developers' perspective, not from a users' perspective (unless you count hacker users). I'm not sure if there is a Wikipedia rule that says you can only call it cross-platform if there are pre-compiled binaries available. -- 41.177.9.83 (talk) 09:41, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know of any Wikipedia rule that says binaries must be available. Anyway:
- There are Midori binaries available for Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD.
- As the cross-platform article explains, Linux itself is cross-platform, which also applies to NetBSD, FreeBSD and OpenBSD.
- The Midori binary packages for Linux and BSD are available for several hardware platforms.
- Summary: Midori is a cross-platform web browser, from both developers' and users' perspective, as it is available for several different operating systems and hardware platforms, in both binary and source code form.—J. M. (talk) 20:59, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know of any Wikipedia rule that says binaries must be available. Anyway:
I just checked; Win32 binaries are available now. 92.224.233.9 (talk) 20:48, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- As of June 6, 2020, Midori is available only for "Linux" (GNU/Linux) and Android, though there is a "Coming soon" message for "Windows" (Windows NT): https://astian.org/midori/download/ 83.165.156.241 (talk) 09:00, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- As of October, 2020, there seems to be a "Windows" category under downloads (with portable or "installer web" options) at (also): https://astian.org/midori/download/ Time for an update? Stvys (talk) 11:26, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- As of June 6, 2020, Midori is available only for "Linux" (GNU/Linux) and Android, though there is a "Coming soon" message for "Windows" (Windows NT): https://astian.org/midori/download/ 83.165.156.241 (talk) 09:00, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Acid3
[edit]The latest version no longer passes the Acid3 test at 100% after three or four tests, I only got a 92/100. It's still better than Internet Explorer I guess. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.99.107.137 (talk) 04:44, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
- Same for me-OOPSIE- (talk) 10:25, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
I got a 100 on the acid3 with Midori. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.192.199.32 (talk) 11:48, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Notability
[edit]Self-published sources; being part of the Xfce desktop environment doesn't automatically make it notable. -- Marawe (talk) 11:15, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
The discussion above lists numerous articles, and being a major component of a major desktop environment should qualify it. In any case, the previous discussion is two years old: have things changed in two years? DavidDouthitt (Talk) 06:12, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
- It lists numerous blog entries, and not notable mentions. Before posting here, I joined the official Wikipedia IRC channel and was told that being a component of Xfce doesn't qualify it. -- Marawe (talk) 10:41, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
- I was under the impression (from the discussion above) that this was marked as notable two years ago. I also thought Midori was the browser for Xfce, but I mispoke. DavidDouthitt (Talk) 17:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
- Also, Midori is thoroughly integrated (if you could call it that) into Wikipedia; the comparison of web browser lists it and many other browsers, including ones lesser known than Midori is. DavidDouthitt (Talk) 17:24, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
- Unfortunately the spotlight in the Linux community isn't always on browsers under heavy development; Midori hasn't passed Alpha yet, no? I've read a lot of blogposts and forums that talk a bit about or review this browser, and the pattern is always the same; it's a nice idea, very fast, and has some interesting features, but is still underdeveloped and so I'll be going back to Firefox/Opera/Epiphany/whatever. Perhaps in the future, when there's some more interesting development, this browser might become more competitive and be better-documented by third party sources. For now, I would love to pitch my support for those against deletion. Just my two cents. 220.138.164.46 (talk) 08:55, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
- its a quite discussed, wide spread alternative in webbrowsers cathegory under heavy developement. would state that as review over blog and news posts now, and google code of summer mentions.
anyway, noteable isnt just brabbling about in some actual blog posts, isnt it? my personal experience: runs on olpc as one of the best solutions, wikipedia gave me some infos, learned about it from ubuntu, read now its part of xfce. most noteable breaking through software news and notability, read it here at wp! 194.48.133.8 (talk) 07:54, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Fast?
[edit]You can't state that this browser is fast, even if you have sources that claim it. Being fast depends on every machine's configuration, hardware, running software, free space etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.191.117.204 (talk) 12:55, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- I agree. All you should say is that it is faster than Firefox or Chrome would be on the same machine. Connor Behan (talk) 03:45, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- It's pretty obvious that speed of a browser suposes testing browsers on identical hardware. But it depends greately on what you're testing. Page rendering after the code is full retrieved / loading from server / complex pages with plugins (what plugins?) vs. simple pages / intensive JavaScript / UI response / memory usage / etc. I think it should be emphasised that its speed is simply the speed of WebKit. 5.12.92.154 (talk)
I would have thought that a general perception of speed over alternatives across platforms and hardware would simply be called fast, rather than something like "comparable to or faster than other leading alternatives".
Lewisgoddard (talk) 19:44, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
I am using Midori in the Raspian Raspberry Pi distribution. It may not beas fast as Dillo or NetSurf but it is able to do more than those other browsers can do in the Pi's xfce environment.Ricgal (talk) 20:29, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Source Download
[edit]The midoribrowser.org site, hosted by eustasy org, provides pre-packaged versions only, does not provide the source code (beggar-ware vs opensource). It's wiki link points to a search engine on xfce.org. Midoribrowser.org incorrectly states that Midori is hosted on the eustasy github. The Midori developers are proud of the fact that they migrated from git to bzr. http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php/2013/05/switching-to-bzr-for-tight-launchpad-integration/
"MidoriBrowser.org is part of the OpenShout class, which aims to promote free open source software, and is a site built using the Responsive Grid System. It's code has been released under Plan 13 onto GitHub while still incomplete with the aim of drawing in community contributions. . "Midori is a lightweight, fast, and free web browser. It is also the default browser of the beautiful elementary os. --http://www.eustasy.org/projects/midori-browser/
The XFCE Midori (official) site points instead to XFCE Source Files (http://www.xfce.org/projects in the Applications section).
I apologize for my feeble skills at writing Wikipedia content. I know some of the above URIs are supposed to be references in the footnote section. I stumbled upon eustasy by mistake while looking for the more recent source code I plan to compile with the slackbuild script. http://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.0/network/midori/ (v0.52, not v0.50).
Hpfeil (talk) 15:17, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion here. TwoToasts is the Developer of the Application. eustasy org and the OpenShout class are initiatives by eustasy to promote open source software by redesigning and maintaining new websites. eustasy has open-sourced the website on GitHub.
Midori is indeed the default browser in xfce and elementary, and it has been moved from bzr to launchpad for tighter integration with package building.
Finally, the Source download is now listed. Lewisgoddard (talk) 19:41, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
Please, update the photo description:
[edit]It should be "A screenshot of the Midori (web browser) running on Peppermint Linux OS." Oduduserra (talk) 00:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Discontinued?
[edit]The bug tracker has legit reports about freezing on Win7 x64, which are now 4 years old and still in "NEW" and "UNDECIDED". I would probably label this thing as "discontinued" or "unmaintained". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.125.17.190 (talk) 18:07, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- Unresolved old bugs in a bug tracker do not make a project discontinued or unmaintained. That's actually normal in software (including the most prominent software made by big companies). Stronger evidence is needed.—J. M. (talk) 18:19, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- Considering there have been releases newer than that, it obviously isn't a good indication. - Ahunt (talk) 21:01, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
The end is here or near? Its website hasn't worked for the past 5 days or more. It just has a message & a link to astian.org. That website has a link back to the nonfunctioning website. 99.7.207.171 (talk) 02:45, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- I noted that too. We'll monitor it for a week or two and if it doesn't come back up note it in the article. - Ahunt (talk) 03:03, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
"Latest commit d8546ca on Oct 12, 2019"
https://github.com/midori-browser/core
It seems they are inactive. Editor-1 (talk) 15:10, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- I would not concluded three months is inactive yet, but it is a sign. - Ahunt (talk) 16:01, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- Looks like the website has been redesigned and is back up on the internet: https://www.midori-browser.org/ - Ahunt (talk) 12:35, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
How long did Midori switched to Gecko
[edit]I just found Midori browser looks likely to Firefox Browser. And even on its website I saw the FAQ column mentioned relations with Firefox and Gecko. I've seen Midori have been rewritten based on Electron in late 2022 after I saw an online news ([9], you can read this if you can speak Chinese), and I feel surprised when I saw Midori switched to Gecko. So I want to know when did developers made this decision. -- Great Brightstar (talk) 16:05, 24 January 2024 (UTC)