Talk:Michael A. Santoro

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Issue: Notability tag requiring secondary sources.

Update suggested: The following secondary sources be incorporated into the article.

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A) Section: "Fair Share" Theory of Business Responsibility for Human Rights Source: Koehn, D. (2003). Spotting Ethical Spin-Offs: A Review of Michael Santoro's "Profits and Principles". Business Ethics Quarterly,13(2), 257-260. Retrieved from www.jstor.org/stable/3857662 Potential text to quote: “Santoro distinguishes between two types of Western companies with operations in China.” “Santoro found that the presence of companies of the first type has generally been positive. Santoro offers what he calls a ‘Theory of Human Rights Spin-Off.’” “While conceding the need to be skeptical, Santoro insists that there is a positive spin-off.” “Whether or not these spin-offs take hold will depend, I believe, on the extent to which they are reinforced by deeply held Chinese cultural values.” [edited to add |quote= parameter] B) Section: Wall Street ethics and the financial crisis Source: McCoy, Kevin. (2013, July 16). Survey questions Wall Street ethics. USA Today. Retrieved from URL. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2013/07/16/wall-street-ethics-survey/2520417/ [edited to add |quote= parameter] Suggested text to add: In 2013, a study by Labaton Sucharow, a New York City law firm, found that in a survey of 250 financial professionals, 29% said “they believed financial services professionals may need to engage in unethical or illegal activity in order to be successful.” Santoro stated “no amount of structural reform and government regulation will ensure the stability of the global financial system unless the ethical practices and values of Wall Street professionals are aligned with market efficiency and the public welfare.” C) Section: Pharmaceutical Industry Ethics Source: Sandberg, Joakim. (2010). Ethics and the Pharmaceutical Industry: Book Review. European Journal of Health Law, 17, 211-214. Retrieved from https://www.academia.edu/259184/Ethics_and_the_Pharmaceutical_Industry [edited to add |quote= parameter] How to use: Can be added as a secondary source for the sentence, “In an introductory chapter, Santoro describes "the unravelling of the "grand bargain" between the pharmaceutical industry and society.”

VAU2020 (talk) 22:12, 18 December 2019 (UTC) ; edited 18:37, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

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Reply 18-DEC-2019 (I)

Reply from Spintendo (I)

Clarification requested   As the request involves the insertion of quotes, please activate the |quote= parameter of the citation template in each instance and insert the material from the sources which verifies the proposed content. When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the {{request edit}} template's answer parameter to read from |ans=yes to |ans=no. Thank you! Notes

Regards,  Spintendo  05:35, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Reply 21-JAN-2020 (II)

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• Thank you for using the guidelines at WP:REDACTED, it is much appreciated.
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Request for addition of secondary sources

This is a request to add secondary sources to the text (per the notability tag requiring more secondary sources).

The first two are suggestions of new text to add with a corresponding secondary source. The third suggestion is to add a secondary source as a reference to existing text.

Suggestion 1: Add additional sentence in section "Fair Share" Theory of Business Responsibility for Human Rights. Could be inserted as second sentence in the first paragraph. New suggested text (this is not a quote from the source):

The book lays out two types of Western companies operating in China and proposes “A Theory of Human Rights Spin-Off.”

Suggestion 2: Add additional sentences in section Wall Street ethics and the financial crisis. Could be added to paragraph one. New suggested text:

Santoro and Strauss conclude that "no amount of structural reform and government regulation will ensure the stability of the global financial system unless the ethical practices and values of Wall Street professionals are aligned with market efficiency and the public welfare."

Suggestion 3: Add this reference to the section Pharmaceutical Industry Ethics. The following sentence is currently the second sentence of the first paragraph:

In an introductory chapter, Santoro describes "the unravelling of the "grand bargain" between the pharmaceutical industry and society.

VAU2020 (talk) 01:30, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

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The book lays out two types of Western companies operating in China and proposes “A Theory of Human Rights Spin-Off.  Declined. Santoro and Strauss conclude that "no amount of structural reform and government regulation will ensure the stability of the global financial system unless the ethical practices and values of Wall Street professionals are aligned with market efficiency and the public welfare."  Declined. In an introductory chapter, Santoro describes "the unravelling of the "grand bargain" between the pharmaceutical industry and society."  Declined. ___________

Request to add new content/secondary source

This is a request to add a secondary source to the text (per the notability tag requiring more secondary sources).

Suggestion: Add additional content in section "Fair Share" Theory of Business Responsibility for Human Rights. New suggested text is below (note that if the quoted section of the review is too long, perhaps just the first sentence ending "...deeply held Chinese cultural values" would be sufficient to add the jist of the reviewer's analysis). This could be added after the first sentence of the section; or, alternatively, as new paragraphs below the existing content:

Santoro proposes a “Theory of Human Rights Spin-off” where Western companies operating in China may have a positive impact on human rights as a natural outcome of their day-to-day operations.

Reviewer Daryl Koehn wrote that “Santoro’s argument is persuasive because he documents these spin-offs in detail”; however, Koehn argues that “Whether or not these spin-offs take hold will depend, I believe, on the extent to which they are reinforced by deeply held Chinese cultural values. For example, the Confucian stress on the inward turn - the need to critically assess one’s own performance before criticizing other people - would seem to reinforce a duties-based perspective rather than a human rights ethic. These values can and do evolve, but the evolution is typically subtle. New values modify old ones, rather than replacing them wholesale.”

VAU2020 (talk) 23:44, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you for improving the edit request, it is much appreciated. With regards to the description of the book as one where the author states that MNC's "operating in China may have a positive impact on human rights as a natural outcome of their day-to-day operations", the claim does not state how and in what way the MNC's would have this impact. This is important here because the next requested section has the author Koehn stating that Santoro's argument is persuasive. But we're not given the details of that argument. Those include:

1. the variables which have an "elective affinity" with human rights
2. the argument that MNC's create a "new meritocracy"
3. the redefinition of power relationships in China
4. the emphasis on information sharing and teamwork

It is, of course, inevitable that the section here would be unable to go into much detail about the book, since that is not the main topic. That information would be germane for an article on the book. In any event, if the book is to be mentioned here, it needs to be more specific with regards to what it is describing (i.e., the author's main claims mentioned above, and the review of those claims - specifically which part of Santoro's argument Koehn meant when he stated "Santoro's argument is persuasive"). Additionally, the pages cited for Koehn need to be page 259 and page 260, not 257 through 260. The page(s) for Santoro should also be given. Regards,  Spintendo  20:54, 19 March 2020 (UTC)