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[edit]why is the first picture not even from the city of Miami? it's from Miami beach. it's a different city. ReignMan (talk) 10:37, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
- speaking of that, the pictures in general on the article are terrible and out of date. using pictures from 2006 and 2014 leave out half of the current recognizable buildings. ReignMan (talk) 10:40, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
- Are you referring the image of Ocean Drive? Basically, many editors do not clearly distinguish between the city of Miami and a broader area, often as broad as the Miami metropolitan area. That is in general true for most articles about cities, with confusion between what is in the city limits vs. what is in the postal delivery area with the same name, or some larger area. So, I agree that the image of Ocean Drive does not belong in this article. As for the age of images, the quality of an image and the degree to which it fairly represents the subject of the article are also important. We are all volunteers and someone has to volunteer to take new photos. We will probably keep the current skyline photo until the community feels that a more recent photo is an improvement on the current photo. Donald Albury 13:03, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Donald Albury I can probably get out and take better pictures, but my only real camera right now is my phone. ReignMan (talk) 09:56, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- Your phone will probably take better photos than the point-and-shoot digital camera that I used more than 15 years ago to take photos that are still used in WP. Fair warning: some editors take the choice of images used in articles very seriously, so don't be surprised if someone objects to changes you make in images used in an article. Disagreements on images in articles should be discussed on the talk page. Donald Albury 12:44, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Donald Albury true, some of my old point and shoot photos from the early 2000s are still in use on some of the South Florida pages. They are not the greatest quality. ReignMan (talk) 16:07, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
- Your phone will probably take better photos than the point-and-shoot digital camera that I used more than 15 years ago to take photos that are still used in WP. Fair warning: some editors take the choice of images used in articles very seriously, so don't be surprised if someone objects to changes you make in images used in an article. Disagreements on images in articles should be discussed on the talk page. Donald Albury 12:44, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Donald Albury I can probably get out and take better pictures, but my only real camera right now is my phone. ReignMan (talk) 09:56, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
Changed the lead image
[edit]Hi all!
I changed the lead image for this article from the previous zoomed out panorama to a more focused and higher image quality skyline picture. This picture also features the signature pink skies Miami is known for (Pink is Miami's color). As such I felt it would be much better as a representation of the skyline, whilst depicting the city's character. Any suggestions are welcome.
Thank you. Becausewhynothuh? (talk) 07:56, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- I do like the photo you added, but I find that panorama highly valuable as an overview of the city. I wonder if one of the other photos could be swapped for it. Maybe the Vizcaya Museum and Gardens image? It doesn't seem so vital to Miami that removing it would be unwise to remove it. Cerebral726 (talk) 12:50, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hmm. Can't say I disagree, since I did find the panorama valuable as well, but thought that it was too unclear and blurry to mean much. I've made an edit that considered your suggestion. Is that better? Becausewhynothuh? (talk) 13:23, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- I like the inclusion of the pink image. I believe the panorama should remain the header as the best overview of the city, as is almost always my criteria. Cerebral726 (talk) 13:39, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- Great! my initial edit (before the subsequent 'how about this?' edit) seems to have satisfied the criteria for you. Thanks for workshopping this. Becausewhynothuh? (talk) 13:41, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- I like the inclusion of the pink image. I believe the panorama should remain the header as the best overview of the city, as is almost always my criteria. Cerebral726 (talk) 13:39, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- I have reverted the infobox image back to the original image of the gardens due to the fact that the pink image is just another shot of downtown (which is already showcased by the panorama). It is also not very illustrative, with the sunset being distracting and not showcasing much besides a small sliver of downtown. (MOS:IRELEV) It feels more fitting on someone's Instagram page rather than as image on Wikipedia and shouldn't have been replaced an high quality image of a landmark. —JJBers 09:38, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Cerebral726: Pinging since the now blocked user has continued to revert edits with sock accounts. I feel as if the "consensus" above was a compromise between you and a now blocked editor warring with you on multiple pages, without taking in account for the quality of the actual page itself and disagree with the inclusion of the image. —JJBers 02:51, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- I am fine with the decision you made. It looks good now. Cerebral726 (talk) 13:09, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Cerebral726: Pinging since the now blocked user has continued to revert edits with sock accounts. I feel as if the "consensus" above was a compromise between you and a now blocked editor warring with you on multiple pages, without taking in account for the quality of the actual page itself and disagree with the inclusion of the image. —JJBers 02:51, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hmm. Can't say I disagree, since I did find the panorama valuable as well, but thought that it was too unclear and blurry to mean much. I've made an edit that considered your suggestion. Is that better? Becausewhynothuh? (talk) 13:23, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Becausewhynothuh? The problem is that so many of the pictures are severely out of date. Even anything a year or too old is now missing a bunch of landmarks. It's almost impossible to keep up with Miami growth in pictures unfortunately. 207.244.171.227 (talk) 13:27, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Too many photos in infobox collage
[edit]There are far too many photos in the infobox collage (currently at 12). This is resulting in many rendering as extremely tiny. These should be trimmed by at least half. Curbon7 (talk) 00:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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Miami, city, seat (1844) of Miami-Dade county, southeastern Florida, U.S. A major transportation and business hub, Miami is a leading resort and Atlantic Ocean port situated on Biscayne Bay at the mouth of the Miami River. The Everglades area is a short distance to the west. Greater Miami, the state’s largest urban concentration, comprises all of the county, which includes the cities of Miami Beach (across the bay), Coral Gables, Hialeah, North Miami, and many smaller municipalities and unincorporated areas; together, these make up the southern section of Florida’s “Gold Coast.” Area city, 35 square miles (91 square km). Pop. (2010) 399,457; Miami–Miami Beach–Kendall Metro Division, 2,496,435; (2020) 442,241; Miami–Miami Beach–Kendall Metro Division, 2,701,767. History
Spaniards in the 16th century found a village (perhaps 2,000 years old) of Tequesta Indians on the site. The name Mayaimi, probably meaning “big water” or “sweet water,” may have referred to Lake Okeechobee or to local Native Americans who took their name from the lake. In 1567 the Spanish established a mission there as part of a futile attempt to subdue the Tequesta. They ceded the area to Great Britain in 1763 but regained it in 1783. After the United States acquired Florida from Spain in 1821, Fort Dallas was built (1836) as a base during the Seminole Wars. A few settlers—among them Julia D. Tuttle, known as the “mother of Miami,” and William B. Brickell—gradually moved into the area.
Henry Morrison Flagler
Henry Morrison FlaglerAmerican industrialist Henry Morrison Flagler. In 1896 Henry M. Flagler extended his Florida East Coast Railway to the site after Tuttle and Brickell each gave him half of their landholdings for the project. Flagler had been convinced to extend the railroad after a freeze during the winter of 1894–95 killed most of Florida’s citrus crop; Tuttle reportedly sent him a fresh orange blossom to prove that the freeze had not reached Miami. Flagler dredged the harbour, started constructing the Royal Palm Hotel, and promoted tourism. Miami was incorporated the same year.
Little Havana, Miami, Florida
Little Havana, Miami, FloridaStreet sign in English and Spanish in Little Havana, a mainly Cuban area of Miami, Florida. (more) During the Florida land boom in the early and mid-1920s, the city’s population more than tripled, but the collapse of this speculation, compounded by a devastating hurricane in 1926, dampened Miami’s fortunes for more than a decade. Neighbouring Miami Beach underwent a brief construction boom in the mid-1930s, when many Art Deco buildings were erected, but this came to an end during World War II, when soldiers replaced tourists at the oceanfront hotels and long stretches of beach were converted to rifle ranges. After the war, many soldiers returned to the Miami area to live, and in the 1950s and ’60s Latin American immigrants, particularly those from Cuba, began to arrive in large numbers. In the 15 years following the Cuban Revolution in 1959, it is estimated that some 500,000 Cubans fled to Miami; many of these immigrants received assimilation aid from the U.S. federal government. During the 1980s Miami gained a reputation as a centre of the illegal cocaine trade, and several acts of violence were directed against foreign tourists in the early 1990s; however, by the end of the 20th century, tourism was rebounding. In 1992 Hurricane Andrew caused some 50 deaths and considerable property damage to areas of the county just south of Miami, although the city itself was largely spared. 2601:582:C500:2440:51E2:5A9F:8C4C:B81B (talk) 11:35, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]Miami, city, seat (1844) of Miami-Dade county, southeastern Florida, U.S. A major transportation and business hub, Miami is a leading resort and Atlantic Ocean port situated on Biscayne Bay at the mouth of the Miami River. The Everglades area is a short distance to the west. Greater Miami, the state’s largest urban concentration, comprises all of the county, which includes the cities of Miami Beach(across the bay), Coral Gables, Hialeah, North Miami, and many smaller municipalities and unincorporated areas; together, these make up the southern section of Florida’s “Gold Coast.” Area city, 35 square miles (91 square km). Pop. (2010) 399,457; Miami–Miami Beach–Kendall Metro Division, 2,496,435; (2020) 442,241; Miami–Miami Beach–Kendall Metro Division, 2,701,767.
History
Spaniards in the 16th century found a village (perhaps 2,000 years old) of Tequesta Indians on the site. The name Mayaimi, probably meaning “big water” or “sweet water,” may have referred to Lake Okeechobee or to local Native Americans who took their name from the lake. In 1567 the Spanish established a mission there as part of a futile attempt to subdue the Tequesta. They ceded the area to Great Britain in 1763 but regained it in 1783. After the United States acquired Florida from Spain in 1821, Fort Dallas was built (1836) as a base during the Seminole Wars. A few settlers—among them Julia D. Tuttle, known as the “mother of Miami,” and William B. Brickell—gradually moved into the area.
In 1896 Henry M. Flagler extended his Florida East Coast Railway to the site after Tuttle and Brickell each gave him half of their landholdings for the project. Flagler had been convinced to extend the railroad after a freeze during the winter of 1894–95 killed most of Florida’s citrus crop; Tuttle reportedly sent him a fresh orange blossom to prove that the freeze had not reached Miami. Flagler dredged the harbour, started constructing the Royal Palm Hotel, and promoted tourism. Miami was incorporated the same year.
During the Florida land boom in the early and mid-1920s, the city’s population more than tripled, but the collapse of this speculation, compounded by a devastating hurricane in 1926, dampened Miami’s fortunes for more than a decade. Neighbouring Miami Beach underwent a brief construction boom in the mid-1930s, when many Art Deco buildings were erected, but this came to an end during World War II, when soldiers replaced tourists at the oceanfront hotels and long stretches of beach were converted to rifle ranges. After the war, many soldiers returned to the Miami area to live, and in the 1950s and ’60s Latin American immigrants, particularly those from Cuba, began to arrive in large numbers. In the 15 years following the Cuban Revolution in 1959, it is estimated that some 500,000 Cubans fled to Miami; many of these immigrants received assimilation aid from the U.S. federal government. During the 1980s Miami gained a reputation as a centre of the illegal cocaine trade, and several acts of violence were directed against foreign tourists in the early 1990s; however, by the end of the 20th century, tourism was rebounding. In 1992 Hurricane Andrew caused some 50 deaths and considerable property damage to areas of the county just south of Miami, although the city itself was largely spared. 2601:582:C500:2440:51E2:5A9F:8C4C:B81B (talk) 11:38, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
About
[edit]Miami, city, seat (1844) of Miami-Dade county, southeastern Florida, U.S. A major transportation and business hub, Miami is a leading resort and Atlantic Ocean port situated on Biscayne Bay at the mouth of the Miami River. The Everglades area is a short distance to the west. Greater Miami, the state’s largest urban concentration, comprises all of the county, which includes the cities of Miami Beach(across the bay), Coral Gables, Hialeah, North Miami, and many smaller municipalities and unincorporated areas; together, these make up the southern section of Florida’s “Gold Coast.” Area city, 35 square miles (91 square km). Pop. (2010) 399,457; Miami–Miami Beach–Kendall Metro Division, 2,496,435; (2020) 442,241; Miami–Miami Beach–Kendall Metro Division, 2,701,767.
History
[edit]Spaniards in the 16th century found a village (perhaps 2,000 years old) of Tequesta Indians on the site. The name Mayaimi, probably meaning “big water” or “sweet water,” may have referred to Lake Okeechobee or to local Native Americans who took their name from the lake. In 1567 the Spanish established a mission there as part of a futile attempt to subdue the Tequesta. They ceded the area to Great Britain in 1763 but regained it in 1783. After the United States acquired Florida from Spain in 1821, Fort Dallas was built (1836) as a base during the Seminole Wars. A few settlers—among them Julia D. Tuttle, known as the “mother of Miami,” and William B. Brickell—gradually moved into the area.
In 1896 Henry M. Flagler extended his Florida East Coast Railway to the site after Tuttle and Brickell each gave him half of their landholdings for the project. Flagler had been convinced to extend the railroad after a freeze during the winter of 1894–95 killed most of Florida’s citrus crop; Tuttle reportedly sent him a fresh orange blossom to prove that the freeze had not reached Miami. Flagler dredged the harbour, started constructing the Royal Palm Hotel, and promoted tourism. Miami was incorporated the same year.
During the Florida land boom in the early and mid-1920s, the city’s population more than tripled, but the collapse of this speculation, compounded by a devastating hurricane in 1926, dampened Miami’s fortunes for more than a decade. Neighbouring Miami Beach underwent a brief construction boom in the mid-1930s, when many Art Deco buildings were erected, but this came to an end during World War II, when soldiers replaced tourists at the oceanfront hotels and long stretches of beach were converted to rifle ranges. After the war, many soldiers returned to the Miami area to live, and in the 1950s and ’60s Latin American immigrants, particularly those from Cuba, began to arrive in large numbers. In the 15 years following the Cuban Revolution in 1959, it is estimated that some 500,000 Cubans fled to Miami; many of these immigrants received assimilation aid from the U.S. federal government. During the 1980s Miami gained a reputation as a centre of the illegal cocaine trade, and several acts of violence were directed against foreign tourists in the early 1990s; however, by the end of the 20th century, tourism was rebounding. In 1992 Hurricane Andrew caused some 50 deaths and considerable property damage to areas of the county just south of Miami, although the city itself was largely spared. 2601:582:C500:2440:51E2:5A9F:8C4C:B81B (talk) 11:41, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
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