Talk:Metropolitan Area Outer Underground Discharge Channel

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Mention of and explanation of "G-Cans" name?

"G-Cans Project" redirects here but that name is only mentioned in links and there's no explanation of where that name comes from. Can that be added? DenisMoskowitz (talk) 22:07, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

I think it's probably meant to be "gesui kanaru" (下水カナル lit. drainage canal). This is very hard to find (the first source I found took a lot of digging and gave the origin as "gesui kanara," which I'm 99% sure is wrong.) I did eventually find some sources for the seemingly right answer: a Quora post and a travel blog, but I don't know if those pass muster for a citation.

I will say, as someone who speaks Japanese, "gesui kanaru" sounds extremely plausible. Taking an English loanword like canal, combining it with a Japanese word, and abbreviating the whole thing into something cute is very common in Japanese. But I can't find any JP-language sources, or really any sources other than those two, so make of that what you will. 24.164.250.68 (talk) 21:36, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

According to the g-cans.jp on 2005, "G-CANS PROJECTは「外郭放水路できっと何かができる」という可能性の名称です" (lit. "G-CANS PROJECT" is a name given to the concept of the possibility of "We can surely do something [beneficial to our local community] with the Outer Underground Discharge Channel") and follows up with "GでCANするG-CANS PROJECTです" (lit. "G-CANS PROJECT", in which we do "CAN" with "G"). There is no mention of the word 下水 (gesui) or カナル (canal) at all. Also, if I understand correctly, 外郭放水路 does not handle 下水 (sewage); it handles river water.

https://web.archive.org/web/20050203201641/http://g-cans.jp/g-cans/index.html

The vagueness of their website prevents me from giving a clear-cut answer, but the most natural guess I can make from their website is that

:: G stands for the initialism of Gaikaku hōsuiro

:: CAN stands for the English word "can", in the sense of "Since we [the people of Kasukabe] have a great facility underneath our feet, surely we can do something to take advantage of that and boost the local economy

:: S is the English plural suffix, denoting that it is a project consisting of multiple people working together

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It is important to note that G-CANS is not a name intended for the discharge channel itself. (I have never heard of it in Japan, but I understand that it's much catchier than the official, much-boring acronym MAOUDC (as mentioned in this BBC article https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20181129-the-underground-cathedral-protecting-tokyo-from-floods ) and caught on in the English-speaking world).

The original G-CANS PROJECT explicitly identifies itself as 外郭放水路新地底文化創造計画 (which I would translate as "a plan to create new undeground cultures pertaining to the Outer Underground Discharge Channel").

A more recent archive gives another evidence that G-CANS is a small organization consisting of 48 people, led by the Kasukabe citizens, whose aim is to "explore ways to utilize the unique presence of this exceptional underground facility, which was constructed as a drastic flood control measure in the Nakagawa basin of eastern Saitama Prefecture, to promote regional development. It also actively involves citizens in the actual operations [of the discharge channel]." (original text: G-CANSは埼玉県東部中川流域の抜本的な治水対策として建設された外郭放水路というたぐい稀な地下施設の存在感を活かした地域振興の在り方を模索し、実際の運営に積極的な市民参加をしています。)

https://web.archive.org/web/20180502141110/http://genki365.net/gnkk23/pub/sheet.php?id=600

Hsjoihs (talk) 14:31, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

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Some of those linked from [1] might be obtained with a suitable license. -- Beland (talk) 05:59, 18 December 2023 (UTC)