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Blatant misinformation "a mature egg is released from the ovarian follicles into the fallopian tube"
[edit]Full sentence.. "Called ovulation, this occurs when a mature egg is released from the ovarian follicles into the fallopian tube".
Proof from wikipedia that this is false..
"The opening is surrounded by fimbriae, which help in the collection of the oocyte after ovulation." from Fallopian tube
"The secondary oocyte leaves the ruptured follicle and moves out into the peritoneal cavity through the stigma, where it is caught by the fimbriae at the end of the fallopian tube" from Ovulation
Proof from an external source.. "The follicle swells until it bursts open, ejecting the egg and fluid into the abdominal cavity.", https://www.thewomens.org.au/health-information/fertility-information/getting-pregnant/ovulation-and-conception
Wallby (talk) 21:42, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, this article says "After release from the ovary, the egg is swept into the fallopian tube by the fimbria – a fringe of tissue at the end of each fallopian tube." Where is the problem? Graham Beards (talk) 06:47, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- We could change that to
- Called ovulation, this occurs when a mature egg is released from the ovarian follicles into the peritoneal cavity, which is then swept into the fallopian tube by the motion of fimbiae Ferid9 (talk) 09:25, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think that is an improvement it is not the peritoneal cavity which is swept into the tube.Graham Beards (talk) 11:41, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
Replies
- First to call this minor issue "blatant misinformation" is nonsense.
- Second, other Wikipedia articles are not more reliable and no article can be used as a source.
- Third, I have stressed the release of the egg into the pelvic cavity, so the two salient sentences now say: "Called ovulation, this occurs when a mature egg is released from the ovarian follicles into the pelvic cavity and enters the fallopian tube, about 10–12 hours after the peak in LH surge." and " After release from the ovary into the pelvic cavity, the egg is swept into the fallopian tube by the fimbria – a fringe of tissue at the end of each fallopian tube."
I thank Wallby for this suggestion but I also add that it is not in the spirit of Wikipedia's collegiate style to be come across as quite so aggressive. You could have simple suggested that we need to stress the bit about the peritoneal cavity.Graham Beards (talk) 12:10, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Why do we use the word "pelvic cavity?" That sounds incomplete because the pelvic "cavity" is not really a cavity and it's filled with organs in a living human and we could also say that the egg was already in the pelvic cavity to begin with, since the ovaries are located inside this cavity.
- İ think changing that to "peritoneal cavity" would be more desirable because firstly it's a real cavity filled with peritoneal fluid and secondly it's the place where some ectopic pregnancies occur. "Pelvic cavity" doesn't include for example, the abdominal part of the peritoneal cavity, where ectopic pregnancies are known to occur. Ferid9 (talk) 02:10, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- I used it because the source, Tortora G (2017). Tortora's Principles of Anatomy & Physiology. Hoboken, New Jersey: John Wiley & Sons, Inc. ISBN 978-1-119-38292-8. OCLC 990424568., does. I quote "Ovulation, is the rupture of the mature (graafian) follicle and the realise of the secondary oocyte into the pelvic cavity". (page 945). Graham Beards (talk) 07:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- See also: McEvoy A, Tetrokalashvili M. Anatomy, Abdomen and Pelvis: Female Pelvic Cavity. 2023 Jul 24. In: StatPearls [Internet]. Treasure Island (FL): StatPearls Publishing; 2024 Jan–. PMID: 30860705. Quote. "The pelvic cavity is a bowl-like structure that sits below the abdominal cavity... In females, the pelvis also houses the uterus, fallopian tubes, and ovaries." Graham Beards (talk) 13:23, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- I used it because the source, Tortora G (2017). Tortora's Principles of Anatomy & Physiology. Hoboken, New Jersey: John Wiley & Sons, Inc. ISBN 978-1-119-38292-8. OCLC 990424568., does. I quote "Ovulation, is the rupture of the mature (graafian) follicle and the realise of the secondary oocyte into the pelvic cavity". (page 945). Graham Beards (talk) 07:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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Neologism "menocycle"
[edit]The neologism "menocycle" signifies "menstrual cycle". "Menocyclical" is its adjective. It would be better to use this neologism.
2804:18:157:A27:183A:68FF:FE6D:149D (talk) 21:11, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Do you have a reliable source for this? Graham Beards (talk) 21:21, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Here they meet some examples of archaisms, neologisms and Parnassianisms as, "androde" (masculine song), "baritonal", "bossess", "contraltina", "grammaticianess", "gynode" (feminine song), "Liturgennium", "liturgode" (liturgical song), "mesosopranina", "musicianess", "politicianess", "singeress", "tenorino" and so on.
- 2804:18:157:A27:183A:68FF:FE6D:149D (talk) 21:35, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Do you have a reliable source? If not please note that this is not forum but a place to discuss specific improvements to the article. Graham Beards (talk) 21:41, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
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