Talk:Men's role in childbirth
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[edit]A nurse-midwife is a modern term and distinction. I believe that this should be changed to simply "midwife". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.165.14.201 (talk) 09:46, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I agree with the above: nurse-midwifery wasn't established in the US until the 1920s, therefore prior to that period, midwives were called just that-- midwives. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.114.129.21 (talk) 01:59, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Could it also be possible that physicians discouraged large numbers of people in the birthing area due to it being potentially unsanitary? I find the claim that physicians saw additional people as challenges to their authority (those people being women), as being a bit on the side of being unsubstantiated and biased. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.194.217.193 (talk) 06:46, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
This article is curently severely U.S.-centric: it either needs considerable widening out, or to be renamed Men's role in childbirth in the United States. -- Karada 18:37, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Reject Rather than move the article, why not expand it to encompass a world view? That would seem like a more logical idea. Viridae 12:17, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Expand, not rename this. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 16:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
This article does not expand upon the role of Men as providers of Care and Comfort during the birthing process beyond the role as a mate. There are many Males who practice as Childbith Assistants, Doulas and Midwifes too!
"Husband Dominance The more dominant a man is over his wife, the less likely he is to help her through her pregnancy and labor. A wife that is independent and makes her own decisions is very unlikely to have a husband who will refuse to participate in her pregnancy. Husband dominance and traditional attitudes go hand in hand because men in traditional relationships have control over the marriage, due to the fact that they tend to be the only ones working"
"Men's fear and anxiety Some contend that when men are fearful or anxious regarding birth that they actually make the birth more difficult for their partner. Their fear is 'transmitted' to their partner and this increases her adrenaline levels leading to labour stalling. This then requires the use of oxytocin to restart labour and thus may lead to the cascade of intervention that ends in a caesarean. See Vernon, 2006."
Is there any evidence that can be given for these two claims, or is it just another feminist bullshit that came from the top of the head?
Shhh! Don't say 'feminist bullshit', you might get a soggy rag thrown at you! Heh, in all seriousness; yes, it looks like feminist shite, just delete it. SynthesiseD 23:03, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
- Have you read the citation regarding "Men's Fear and Anxiety?" (Vernon, 2006). If you haven't then you haven't read the evidence. There is no shortage of citations included in Vernon's work. Maustrauser 00:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
NPOV
[edit]The article presents the gradual shift from midwives to physicians in the US in a biased and accusatory light. I think it needs a total re-write.
18.238.2.191 (talk) 05:40, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
This article should be titled "A Partner's Role in Childbirth. Many partners or laboring women are not men. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.175.37.221 (talk) 22:28, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
tried to address some of the NPOV issues with light editing. may benefit from further attention by other editors. or may be ready to have NPOV tag removed? --Mdukas (talk) 09:35, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
More Data
[edit]I would like to know more about the legislative histories related to this article's topic. Who's who and all. Sweetfreek (talk) 07:24, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
How would US citizens go to Great Britain in the mid-18th century...
[edit]if the US did not exist in the mid-18th century? It only came to existence in 1781, and even long after that, doctors didn't receive any real professional training, let alone travel to a foreign country to receive training. Is it possible that this is a typo and the author meant the 19th century? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stupidinsidejoke (talk • contribs) 04:41, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've added {{citation needed}} for this as it is still there. Lineslarge (talk) 13:35, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
US and Australia? Comment
[edit]I came here to find out if countries other than the US have fathers-to-be in their delivery rooms. This article has been here at least 14 years and only lists the US and Australia. I would fill it out myself but can find no data. Is it a US/Australia phenomenon? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mensch (talk • contribs) 20:24, 22 August 2020 (UTC)