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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 00:41, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 13:50, 17 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Megan Barton-Hanson; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Megan Barton-Hanson - hooks ALT, ALT1, ALT2 and ALT3
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: This section of the review is only relevant to hooks ALT, ALT1, ALT2 and ALT3. Article is new enough, long enough, very well and clearly sourced, article is plagiariss free. Hooks are cited and intersting, but I am striking ALT2 we're talking about a BLP. I'm on the fence about ALT3 - but as the nominator says the fact that cock destroyer got deleted makes it weaker. I've added one request for clarification to the article - if that could be addressed I can OK it. Lajmmoore (talk) 09:21, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Tracey - hooks ALT, ALT4 and ALT5
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: This section of the review is only relevant to hooks ALT, ALT4 and ALT5. There's a couple of places where I've asked for clarification as it's not clear to me how the information fits in with the topic, it would be great if they could be addressed to help the reader. Otherwise article is new enough, long enough, well sourced, neutral, plagiarism free, QPQ is done. Hooks are cited and interesting. Although I do not like ALT4 personally. Lajmmoore (talk) 09:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Overall comments
  • ALT (double nomination), ALT1 and ALT5 appear to me to be the strongest hooks. I think some behind-the-scenes technical detail might be needed to link Hey Tracey to this nomination (that is beyond me though). If the clarifications are addressed, both can be OK'd. Thanks for creating the articles @Launchballer: Lajmmoore (talk) 09:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did put in a request that Megan's article run on 6 March, is this possible?--Launchballer 13:13, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Passed. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:59, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Nominator: Launchballer (talk · contribs) 08:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 05:10, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
    a (references):
    b (citations to reliable sources):
    c (OR):
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):
    b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail:

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Did you know? If you fancy doing so, I always have plenty of GA nominees to review. Just look for the all-uppercase titles in the Television section. Reviews always appreciated.

The main issue with this article is that I think a soul-searching on whether every detail is germane and worthy of a BLP is in order. This article has sat at GAN for four months and has not changed much since. Fresh eyes might be able to spot things you don't truly need. Your second priority item, lesser than the first, is your propensity to create truly long sentences that move with all the grace of a freight train. Ping me when done. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:59, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copy changes

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  • Priority item: Is every detail about her life that is in this article germane to include?
Very sorry to keep you waiting on this @Sammi Brie:; I hit something of a wall shortly before seeing this, and have been concentrating on things that require less brainpower. I've made a few minor cuts for this which I've largely described below; a lot of the stuff I would consider invasive such as cosmetic surgery comes from her, so I've no truck with including it. Did you have something else in mind?--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Review the entire article for lengthy sentences that could be split.

Lead

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  • Barton-Hanson endured bullying as a teenager, and suffered from severe mental health problems and she also underwent cosmetic surgery during this period, and operated an OnlyFans account WP:CINS remove comma. You're going to hear that a lot.
Probably not due for the lede, so cut the whole sentence.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Life and career

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  • Megan Leah Barton-Hanson was born on 6 March 1994 in Southend-on-Sea in Essex, and has a brother, Kurtis. Remove comma after Essex
Removed comma, cut 'Kurtis' per WP:BLPNAME.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • In secondary school, she suffered from bullying for her appearance, and underwent otoplasty in an attempt to stem the abuse Remove comma after appearance
Removed comma.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • After leaving school, she trained as a personal assistant, before working for a fashion designer and as a social media manager Remove comma after "assistant", though not CinS
Removed comma.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • She later underwent therapy, and has credited it with teaching her coping mechanisms that worked Remove comma
Removed comma.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • On 10 June 2018, she appeared on the fourth series of Love Island, having applied unsuccessfully for the third, and having deleted her OnlyFans account at the producers' behest. Consider restructuring this sentence, with the two "having" clauses.
Cut "having applied unsuccessfully for the third". I noticed when converting the Candy Kittens ref that it said "initially turning down Love Island", prompting me to check The Telegraph, where I found that it cited Digital Spy, which in turn cited WP:THESUN. I've found another podcast where she said why she declined it, so added that in a different sentence.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • who she criticised probably "whom". This occurs later with "who she declined" and "who she later also dated", too.
Fixed all.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Barton-Hanson and Nelson remained together after the series ended, with Barton-Hanson moving into Nelson's flat, and the pair later moving into a flat in Camden. The back half can be made less verbose. Barton-Hanson and Nelson remained together after the series ended, with Barton-Hanson moving into Nelson's flat before the pair later moved to Camden.
Changed, though with "both" replacing "the pair". (I did consider splitting the sentence at "ended", but felt it jarred.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • having delayed doing so due to having worked in the sex industry, and to avoid feeding into the LGBT stereotype of bisexual promiscuity Remove comma
Removed comma.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • should be "series's" per MOS:'S
Fixed all three.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • and for a tip, replies to subscribers. Consider splitting off. You have a tendency to produce some long sentence strings that occasionally merit splitting.
Split off and removed comma.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • she stated that she made between £20,000 and £70,000 each month, and that she had between two and three thousand followers on the platform maybe she stated that she made between £20,000 and £70,000 each month and had between two and three thousand followers on the platform.
Done.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Italicize the title of the podcast.
Done.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Big Celebrity Detox, but left after one episode Remove comma CinS
Done.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • While on the programme, she coupled up with Kyra Green of Love Island USA 1, in doing so becoming the franchise's second same-sex pairing since the format launched in 2005, after Katie Salmon and Sophie Gradon, the latter of whom had committed suicide in June 2018. What a sentence! Split.
Cut "since the format launched in 2005", trimmed at 'Gradon', and rearranged the rest.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Is Sophie Gradon's suicide worth mentioning here? It's the second one concerning someone else (after Muggy Mike).
Cut both.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why, pray tell, is Cock Destroyer a redlink?
Because the subject is notable (see Sophie Anderson (actress), Rebecca More, Slag Wars: The Next Destroyer). I passed on creating the article as I didn't think DYK would take it, but given that they recently ran Clown porn...

Sourcing and spot checks

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There are two non-CS1 citations, namely 8 and 9. The link to #8, the Channel 4 video at Facebook, is broken for me, but I wonder if that is a geoblocking consideration as I am in the United States. Is there an alternate place where this video might be hosted?

Not geoblocked, just pulled. I've replaced #8 with a YouTube link; haven't added a timestamp as they have a transcript. I've cut #9, as it differed from the article. (Source said "at a strip club", article said "as a stripper", and I don't plan on listening to the podcast as they don't have a transcript.)--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • 19: producers made her deactivate her OnlyFans account before she was able to appear on the show in 2018, and that, since reactivating it, she’s lost “countless jobs” checkY
  • 33: We are parents first and foremost to one incredibly wonderful hamster and we ask for his and our space and privacy to be respected at this difficult time. We haven't really conducted our relationship that privately, and we hope that as we consciously uncouple and co-parent, we will be able to continue in the same manner. (Quote from statement) checkY
  • 36: In Love Island I already felt I had a stigma attached to me because of being a stripper. I didn't want to like add to it by revealing I like girls as well! checkY
  • 41: Review describes the premise of this program. checkY
  • 53: The Capital article does not list Kyra's last name!
Replaced.--Launchballer 15:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • 56: I think this is being used to note the format's launch in 2005? If so, checkY

Items Earwig catches are quotes or show titles.

Images

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The lone image is a cropped screencap of a CC-BY-licensed YouTube video.

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