Talk:Megalomys luciae

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The result of the move request was page moved. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 23:00, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Saint Lucia Giant Rice-rat → Megalomys luciae — This species is mainly known under its scientific name, Megalomys luciae, not under any of the various common names that authors have devised for it--"Santa Lucian Pilorie", "Santa Lucian Giant Rice Rat", "St Lucy Giant Rice-rat", "Saint Lucian Musk Rat", and probably more. See WT:MAMMAL#Common names for a fuller discussion of why I prefer to use scientific names for animals such as this. Ucucha 16:15, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Tevildo (talk) 16:54, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support — so many uncommon vernacular names, so much confusion. --Una Smith (talk) 04:59, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose No evidence here, merely declamation and (quite literally) WP:ILIKEIT. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 06:06, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Re evidence, perhaps these Google Web hit counts will help. --Una Smith (talk) 06:48, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

746 "Saint Lucia Giant Rice-rat"
4,620 "Megalomys luciae"

See WP:Search engines; raw Google is not to trusted, and any argument which depends solely on it is flawed. Ideally, search results should be linked to, so they can be examined, but one likely flaw is obvious: Linnaean names are the same in every language, as they are designed to be; if 90% of the hits on Megalomys are not English, it is not even plurality English usage. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:15, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Google search can be limited to English language pages, in which case there are 3,680 English hits on "Megalomys luciae". In any case, I prefer Google Books and Google Scholar. On Google Books in English there are 75 hits on "Megalomys luciae" and 4 on "Saint Lucia Giant Rice-rat". Remember, this is an extinct species that was already rare when it was first described by scientists, from an island in the eastern Caribbean. In English it has no authentic vernacular name, and its scientific name is without question its most common name. The key word here is "authentic"; made-up names in academic publications are neologisms, and distinctly are neither common names nor vernacular names. --Una Smith (talk) 20:06, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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