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"Mediterranean Diet" as "Cultural Heritage"

A user, Ferclopedio, has added a UNESCO Cultural Heritage box to this article. Only thing is, the item concerns something confusingly named "Mediterranean Diet", which according to the linked rubric concerns " crops, harvesting, fishing, animal husbandry, conservation, processing, cooking, and particularly the sharing and consumption of food," Further "It includes the craftsmanship and production of traditional receptacles for the transport, preservation and consumption of food, including ceramic plates and glasses... Markets also play a key role..." The "cooking" of the food is mentioned as one item among the dozen or so aspects of this very widely-drawn cultural heritage entity.

Editors have been quite clear over the years that Mediterranean diet as commonly understood is not to be equated with Mediterranean cuisine. The UNESCO listing is however defining "Mediterranean diet" in a much wider sense than either the "diet" (nutritional aspect) or the "cuisine" (culinary aspect), i.e. it does not match the scope of either article. I'll note in passing that Ferclopedio actually removed the UNESCO Cultural Heritage infobox from the "Mediterranean diet" article, where it was boldly headed by the title "Mediterranean diet", adding it here rather more, er, quietly, without that particular attribute, which might have, mmm, clashed slightly in its new context. In short, we surely agree that, in fact, it doesn't properly fit or belong here.

Normally I'd just immediately remove anything that fitted the scope of an article so badly. However it has nowhere obvious to go. Thoughts? Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:39, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it clearly doesn't belong here, so it should be removed. Why doesn't Ferclopedio create a new article to cover that very broad definition? His contributions list shows that he's been adding a lot of content to various articles, and he's created numerous stubs and at least one longer article Wedding of King Alfonso XIII and Princess Victoria Eugenie of 10,859 bytes to start. Carlstak (talk) 14:35, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the box and added a mention of the listing at the end of the article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:06, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just re-added the box, and then saw this discussion here. I think that it is best to include the infobox. This article is the closest fit to the subject of the UNESCO-recognized thing, and the template points to this article as the article on that topic.

Thanks but it is a gross mismatch all the same. I'll remove it now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:44, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]