Talk:Meaning of Life (album)

WP:WEIGHT of critical reception section

As per the section template, there is an issue with undue weight in the selection of review statements for the section. Not universally acclaimed (and even then, reception is still presented in a neutral and nuanced manner), the album has mixed reviews from music critics that should be included in prose, and the cited reviews should also be more neutrally written (e.g., if the reviewer both praises and criticizes aspects of an album, both sentiments should be briefly noted. I did a bit of c/e to help balance it a bit. Lapadite (talk) 19:00, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Peer review

Honestly, this article is pretty good shape. I would have just put it up for GAN. However, one issue is that sometime you use excessive citations. In general, there should not be more than three in a row, or if so, they should be bundled. Catrìona (talk) 00:13, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Tour section in the album article

User:HappyAppy10, the Tour article currently redirects to Meaning of Life (album). I understand that the draft is currently waiting to be reviewed. But I see no reason why this album article cannot have a section on the tour. I would suggest you to add the Lead paragraph of the Tour Draft into this album article. once the tour draft is accepted and moved tot he main space, you can also wikilink the tour main article from this tour section in the album article as a new section at the bottom. let me know your thoughts. thanks. --DBigXrayᗙ 05:38, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: Cartoon network freak (talk · contribs) 14:39, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Lead

• which she had won as the → "won" is odd here, use something like "signed"
  • Done.
• Clarkson wanted the album evoke a music of those artists → Clarkson wanted the album to evoke a music of those artists
  • Done.
• Clarkson wanted the album evoke a music of those artists had they happen to release their early works in the 21st century → this sentence is kind of complicated; could you simplify it?
  • Done. Changed to "to evoke a music similar to the early works of those artists"
• To achieve those → To achieve this (since we're only talking about the "soulful spirit")
  • Done.
• and living in the moment → no need for the "in"
  • Done.
• the first and latest → the first and last
  • Done.
• while its supporting concert → winning awards has no connection with live performances. Just begin a new sentence here
  • Done.

Infobox

• The "Recorded" parametre isn't cited within the article's body
  • Done. There's one in the recording section now.

Background

• remarking that her structure with Edge and Corson → do you mean "relationship" here? If yes, then you should say that since the other way it's unnecessarily complicated
  • Done.
• No other issues

Recording and production

• were confirmed to return to Meaning of Life → were confirmed to return for Meaning of Life
  • Done.
• approach a different genre—soul and R&B music,[18] → syntax issue
  • Done.
• and remarked that the album is a → and remarked that the album was a
  • Done.
• feel like a " brand new → syntax issue
  • Done.
• Remove the italics from the last two lines in the first paragraph
  • Done.
• was a "different process" for her.[20][19] → refs need to be in numerical order
  • Done.
• once displayed on Idol → say the full name of the show
  • Done.
• to perform in two selections → what does "selections" mean here?
  • Tracks? Changed to album's two tracks.

Composition

• Lyrical contents of each of the album's tracks centers → ...center
  • Done.
• with the early works of divas Aretha Franklin, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, En Vogue and Bonnie Raitt → "divas" is too unencyclopedic in this context
  • Done. Changed to vocalists
• whose soulful catalog has inspired → whose soulful catalogues have inspired (it's more singers)
  • Done.
• with Clarkson asking "What if Aretha → comma before the quote
  • Done.
• Raissa Bruner of Time styled its tracks as → use "saw" here since "styled" doesn't quite fit
  • Done.
• She remarked "This is a record → comma before the quote
  • Done.
• The "(sic)" shouldn't be in italics
  • Done.
• an expense on her domestic life → "domestic" is quite a complicated choice here; simply use "family life"
  • Done.
• mentally, physically in a marriage; and as a mature → mentally, physically in a marriage, as well as a mature
  • Done.
• the song a minute-long anthem → the song is a minute-long anthem
  • Done.
• anthem for self-care; and was primarily → just use a normal comma instead of the semicolon
  • Done.
• take a minute break for herself → even if this sounds odd, this way it's more correct: "take a brek for a minute for herself"
  • Done.
• while still sounding fresh → "contemporary" is a better and more encyclopedic choice
  • Done.
• described the song as giving a 100% commitment to one another and a reminiscent of her relationship → described the song as discussing on giving 100% commitment to one another and as reminiscent of her relationship
  • Done.
• song and the titular track, "Meaning of Life" was → comma before "was"
  • Done.
• The fifth, "Move You" was → comma before "was"
  • Done.
• and was inspired by Carey's → with inspiration from Carey's
  • Done.
• Harlœ & Pat Linehan, and was produced by → Harlœ and Pat Linehan, and was produced by
  • Done.
• for leaving her high and dry → "high and dry" is very unencyclopedic
  • Done. Changed to "forsaking her"
• with the latter-most → what should this mean?
  • Done. replaced with "who", referring to The Monarch
• write a ballad that showcases her vocals, which latter co-wrote based → this sentence doesn't make sense for me
  • Done. Changed to "Requested by Clarkson to write a ballad that showcases her vocals, Harlœ based the song from her past relationship."
• to take things slow → ...slowly
  • Done.
• to his sexy advances → "sexy" is superfluous; we understand the meaning
  • Done.
• sings of demanding a man be honest about his true feelings → is about demanding a man to be honest about his true feelings
  • Done.

Release and promotion

• which will be followed by a promotional → which would be followed by a promotional
  • Done.
• and topped the Billboard Dance Club Songs chart → use "ranking" to avoid the repetition of words
  • Done.
• Link "promotional single"
  • Done.
• follow-up single on February 9, 2018; followed by "Heat" → normal comma instead of semicolon
  • Done.
• which visited select U.S. cities from January to March of 2019 → which visited selected U.S. cities from January to March 2019
  • Done.
• To showcase the album → you mean to "promote" it? 'Cause this would be a better word choice
  • Done.
• presented Clarkson where she performed six selections the album at the Rainbow Room in New York City → this sentence doesn't make sense
  • Done. Changed to "jointly presented Clarkson's performance of the album's six selections at the Rainbow Room in New York City"
• where select performances of which were released online → with selected performances being eventually released online
  • Done.
• on an album release party at the hosted by → this sentence doesn't make any sense gramatically
  • Done. Changed to "performed several songs from the album at an album release party hosted by iHeartRadio in Los Angeles"
• Youtube Space → YouTube Space; the link should only be to "YouTube" since that place doesn't have its own Wiki page
  • Done.
• tape broadcast → tape-broadcast
  • Done.
• featuring select performances by Clarkson → featuring selected performances by Clarkson
  • Done.
• in various televised events around the world → "around the world" should be removed since it's exaggerating; she didn't perform in that many countries
  • Done.

Critical reception

• drenched album is full of confidence." and described its → drenched album is full of confidence," describing its
  • Done.
• gave the album a four star rating → gave the album a four-star rating
  • Done.
• writing that Clarkson is "in her absolute element" → writing that Clarkson was "in her absolute element"
  • Done.
• "in her absolute element" in it → "in her absolute element" on it
  • Done.
• and the album is a "peppier → and the album was a "peppier
  • Done.
• The last sentence in the first paragraph is missing a quotation mark
  • Done.
• gave Meaning of Life a four star rating → gave Meaning of Life a four-star rating
  • Done.
• he wrote it presents → past tense
  • Done.
• gave the record a three star rating → gave the record a three-star rating
  • Done.
• writing that the album has "lots of filler" → past tense
  • Done.
• and notably evokes records → past tense
  • Done.
• evokes records of Christina Aguilera and Meghan Trainor → Meghan Traino should be linked towards the end of the second paragraph and mentioned by full name there, but not here
  • Done.
• long since transcended"; and → normal comma is needed here
  • Done.
• she was puzzled that "almost 15 years after Idol, to hear an album that sounds so much like contractual winner's filler." → this does not make sense gramatically; you need to alter the quote I think
  • Done. Changed to "hear an album that sounds so much like contractual winner's filler" almost 15 years after winning the competition"
• Section name > Instead of "Award nominations" you could just simply say "Accolades", but it's up to you
  • Done.
• award-giving programs: including the → a comma is needed here
  • Done.
• on several publications' year-end lists. → on several publications' year-end lists:
  • Done.

Commercial performance

• which account 68,000 copies of traditional → which account 68,000 copies in traditional
  • Done.
• and became her first entry at the Billboard Vinyl → and became her first entry on the Billboard Vinyl
  • Done.
• and a top forty entry on the national charts of the Austria → the last "the" is not needed
  • Done.

Further sections

• No issues, tables correctly formatted

Other things

• 33.8% is (still) a good percentage for copyviolation
  • But it's a quotation from the artist. Should I rephrase it?
    • It's okay then. I didn't see that. Cartoon network freak (talk) 17:56, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
• 1 dead link that needs to be archived
  • Done
• 1 disambiguation link that needs to be fixed
  • That's actually for the other similarly titled albums at the top of the article. Should we just remove it?
    • Again, did not see that. It's okay in this case... Cartoon network freak (talk) 17:56, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
• As far as I checked them, the references do seem to back up the assertions made in this article

Outcome

•  On hold for 7 days — a very cohesive article that needs some fixes for GA status. Good luck with editing; Cartoon network freak (talk) 08:27, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Done for almost everything. Except two on the other things section. Please check and thanks for the comments. Chihciboy (talk) 13:14, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
    • @Chihciboy: Passing this wonderful article... Is there any possiblity you could also take one of my GANs on review? Greets; Cartoon network freak (talk) 17:55, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

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