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Honky Tonk Train Blues

First Rock 'n' Roll Record? According to whom? Steve Pastor 21:12, 29 December 2006 (UTC) Here is what the web reference at the end of the article says, "laid the groundwork for rhythm & blues and later rock & roll." "Laying the groundwork for rhythm and blues and later rock & roll" is not equal to being one of the first. Steve Pastor 23:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

boogie woogie short lived?

See Robert Palmer reference in boogie woogie article. 1938 through early 1950s is over a decade. Steve Pastor 23:47, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Boogie Woogie craze

Bob Palmer was wrong, it is called a "craze" because it was short-lived. By the end of WWII it was essentially over in the U.S. I do agree with the first post, Lewis was not a rock 'n' roll pioneer! Christiern Albertson 00:01, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you limit yourself to big bands, etc, you may be right. But... Lawrence Cohn also writes about the hillbilly or country musicians picking up the boogie woogie ideas just about the time the other people were dropping it in his book "Nothing But the Blues". You could check on the Delmore Brothers, as one example. Cohn has an entire chapter on "White Country Blues". There are also references and links to a huge database located at Emory Law University in some of the pages I've worked on. The article on Hound Dog comes to mind as a place to find that link. You'll see and hear plenty of Boogie there. Compilations of music considered to be pre "rock n roll" often include these songs. If you think it's a good idea, I could put some of those links in this article, too. I didn't want to do overkill. Steve Pastor 01:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it all depends on one's definition of "craze." Boogie woogie is such an infectious style that there will always be exponents who do well with it. Winifred Atwell, Hazel Scott, Sugar Chile Robinson did well in the post-WWII years. George Shearing and Oscar Peterson started out with it, but you correctly point out the dominant role played by the big bands--that peaked during the war years, when Will Bradley was going strong and the Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy set the jitterbug crowd in motion. I'll ask Larry Cohn (an old friend) what he thinks. Yes, I think a few links would be helpful. Christiern Albertson 01:45, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It may take a few days to get the links in. Meanwhile, as I was cleaning up last night, I ran across a Bill Haley and His Comets disc. Green Tree Boogie, Sundown Boogie, and ABC Boogie are all on the disc. If you want to see a scarey moment in history, get a copy of "Rock Rock Rock". Alan Freed sings "Rock n Roll Boogie". So, Boogie went all the way thru country and well into the decade of early rock. "Rock Rock Rock" was filmed in 1956. Regarding use of the word "Craze", there are other ways to address popularity than using that particluar word. Meanwhile, anyone can verify what Palmer wrote by looking at a copy of his book. Other "opinions" should at least be verifiable. And, I find it interesting that the Lindy and Swing crowds don't seem to have any idea how popular Western Swing was in the 1940s, especially in the West, including California. Anything remotely connected with "country" music isn't acknowledged. Meanwhile Palmer, Cohn, and others write about how much a part of the development of Rock n Roll it was. Steve Pastor 19:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC) Here's a thought and a plea. This article is about Meade Lux Lewis. I just put another link in the Boogie Woogie article to a database with probably thousands of boogies done by country/rock n roll performers from the late 1940s thru 1961. I think that link, and others, would be misplaced here. Would you look there, please? Steve Pastor 20:21, 10 February 2007 (UTC) Then there's the 1950, Johnny Otis produced "Cupid's Boogie" by Little Esther, one of the year's top records. But again, this is the Meade Lux Lewis page. Steve Pastor 21:44, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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