Talk:May 1915 Triple Entente declaration

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Did you know... that the first use of the phrase "crimes against humanity" in diplomacy was in a May 1915 Entente declaration condemning the Armenian Genocide?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk) 15:43, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the first use of the phrase "crimes against humanity" in diplomacy was in a May 1915 Entente declaration condemning the Armenian Genocide?
- ALT1:... that the Ottoman response to a 1915 Entente declaration condemning "crimes against humanity" has been described as the beginning of Armenian Genocide denial?

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Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 05:40, 8 May 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Hi Buidhe, review follows: article created 8 May; article is well written, cited inline throughout and exceeds minimum length (when quote removed); I'm no expert in this field but the sources used look to be reliable; I didn't pick up any overly close paraphrasing from the accessible sources; hooks proposed are both interesting and mentioned in the article; for ALT0 the online source states "The first “official” international use of the concept of crime against humanity dates back to May 24, 1915", happy to AGF that the offline source supports the "first use ... in diplomacy" claim; again, happy to AGF on the offline sourcing for ALT1; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 06:17, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot to say, this could be a good candidate to run on 24 May, its 106th anniversary - Dumelow (talk) 06:18, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree. (t · c) buidhe 06:22, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If it runs on that day, the date should probably appear in the blurb. Srnec (talk) 19:58, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy

This is a good article, but it could use a bit of expansion. The declaration promised trials for those Ottoman officials responsible for "crimes against humanity", which was the very first time ever that such a promise had been made. There was actually an attempt to hold the promised war crimes trials with the British arresting a number of Ottoman officials in 1918-1919 with the intention of putting them on trial for their actions during the Armenian genocide. As is usually the case, politics were more important than justice, and the trials were never held with the accused being all released by 1923. However, this did create a precedent, and the Anglo-French-Polish declaration issued in April 1940 promising to bring the leaders of Nazi Germany to trial was based on this declaration. And in turn, the Moscow declarations of 1943 were inspired by the 1940 London declaration. This article could use a bit of expansion with the legacy of the 1915 declaration. --A.S. Brown (talk) 07:31, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, but I don't necessarily have the sources on hand to connect these later events to the 1915 declaration. (t · c) buidhe 08:07, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I made a start, through I must confess that to having a lack of sources at present. If you can get your hands on it, A Shameful Act by Taner Akcam does talk a lot on the failed attempt to try the leaders of the Committee for Union and Progress after 1918. I agree one should not get off-topic, but at any rate, it is relevant to the subject. By the way, great work in getting this article started. Best wishes and cheers! --A.S. Brown (talk) 08:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]