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Durandal in the 1967 War

Folks, The Durandal was never used in the 1967 War. It did not exist then. In fact the use of anti-runway bombs -- ie called "dribblers" -- was one of the most successful dis-information campaigns of that war. Along with the claim that they launched heat seeking air to ground missiles against Egyptian fighters warming their engines up to take off. The air to ground weapons used were revealed later were pure and simple: 30mm cannon fire and dive bombing of the runways. --Jackehammond (talk) 18:25, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed that the Durandal did not exist at the time of the 1967 Six Day War, as it was first produced in 1977. See http://articles.janes.com/articles/Janes-Air-Launched-Weapons/Durandal-BLU-107-B-France.html. I will edit the article to remove the section shortly. In addition, the final section that states that there are no more Durandals in the USAF inventory is without a citation and seems rather suspect. Plsuh (talk) 01:35, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article at janes.com says the Durandal was developed in the 1970s but neither of the given references can support the statement that the Durandal was not used in 1967 nor that the weapon used in 1967 was a predessor of the Durandal. The references can also not support the statement that there was a French-Israeli collaboration. Freelion (talk) 03:23, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is confirmed by the citation given and then deleted that the direct predecessor to the Durandal did exist in 1967 and was the result of Israeli/French cooperation. Instead of deleting offline hard copy cited information get the book on inter library loan and confirm. "Dassault Mirage: The Combat Log", Salvador Mafe Huertas, page-41, ISBN-978-0764301681 The counter cite used to remove this information is a dead link but would likely only apply to the weapon eventually released for sale as the Durandal in 1977. Citation shows the Durandal brand/trade name had not yet been adopted and these weapons then called "Runway Piercing Bomb" were earlier versions of what would be called the Durandal. As this information is supported by citation reverting back to a technically correct (only when referring to a trade name Durandal) also misleads when the actual development backstory shows unbranded Matra/Israeli proto-Durandal weapons were used in 1967.

Where are additional citations needed?

In the Overview section, where are additional citations needed? All of the info in the section is from the reference [1], in a compact area on page of the source. Plsuh (talk) 21:36, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Off of front line duty/retired?

I was under the impression from reading Mike Spick books that the Durandal had basically been taken out of inventory, in the US at least, because they decided that the bombing run was far to dangerous for the attacking aircraft, having to fly at a low and constant altitude and speed on a predictable path across a heavily-defended target area, a runway. AnnaGoFast (talk) 13:15, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]