Talk:Masyaf

A fact from Masyaf appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 June 2015 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Ayyubid sultan Saladin attempted, but failed, to capture the fortress of Masyaf (pictured), which served as the headquarters of the Assassins in Syria?

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Assassin's creed reference

I added a reference to the video game Assassin's Creed because the game includes a fully explorable version of the castle at Masyaf. Many game players will have never heard of the monument before having played the game so I thought it was relevant (not to mention a nice little advert for the site). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.90.232.145 (talk) 20:58, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But how do you know that it's accurate? The geography of that game is totally different than real life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.190.33 (talk) 21:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is accurate to an extent. It is atop the hill, however that is as accurate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.150.151.68 (talk) 04:37, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you prove that the inside of the castle is accurate? saying "it is atop the hill" dosent neccesarily mean it is an accurate depiction. Maxtitan 20:05 21 March 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 20:05, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The interior of the fictional Masyaf citadel in Assassin's Creed contains an extensive library, and the rear is a lush garden above a sheer drop. These two properties happen to be known features of the real Alamut, which was also a Hashashin fortress at this time. Subsequently, it is likely that the fictional Masyaf is a combination of features of both fortresses.

It may also be the case that the in-game character Al-Mualim ("teacher") is a portrayal of the real Rashid ad-Din Sinan, who was operating out of Masyaf at the time the game is set. Both characters are the leaders of the Masyaf citadel. In addition, both ad-Din Sinan and the fictional Al-Mualim die around the same point in time (e.g. 1192-4 compared to 1191). So there certainly are elements of the real Masyaf which have carried into the game, albeit modified.

At any rate, a reference to Assassin's creed should only be made under the Popular Culture heading. Automated hamster (talk) 14:13, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed Maxtitan (talk) 13:40, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The section goes into far too much detail into the actual design of the place. It is just a videogame after all, and it has a setting called Masyaf based on the ancient city. Furthermore, the trailers for the newest game actually state the setting in Masyaf. The whole comparison with Alamut is irrelivant, and unless anyone can bring sources specifically linking the game design to the Persian city (as opposed to just developers taking random artistic liberties with the design), that section is removed. In an interview with the develpers, they only mention the Arab city of Masyaf and it's architecture as being inspirations. So again, unless anyone here has actual proof of them basing it on Alamut, is a developer or somesort of mind-reader, you cannot make assumptions as to the real inspiration of the game setting. The developers name it only as Masyaf and state only that Masyaf wasthe inspiration. Any similarities to Alamust are purely them taking liberties (not that any Western developers can go there without being imprisoned, raped and tortured by the Basij lol).

Peace. SaSH (talk) 11:02, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

- I agree with SaSH, too many stupid Assassin's Creed references all over the page. Someone has clearly got way too excited playing the game, and now has to copy all this rubbish onto Wikipedia. It's a fantasy game masquerading as history, it has no place on an encyclopaedia. Leave the history to the historians please, Ubisoft are anything but. Gerard de Ridefort (talk) 09:01, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Syria

Someone I know from Masyaf said that it separated from Syria in the '90s. He is now the 3rd in command of the Guards of Masyaf, just about a 2,000 troop group of men... So i think that should be changed to city-state near Syria. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.198.24.13 (talk) 04:47, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is still part of Syria. Spectral Diagram (talk) 21:04, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling

Someone said it is spelled Masayaf. I dunno if it's true, but they live there...

It's "Maṣyāf" in English. Spectral Diagram (talk) 21:02, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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