Talk:Mary Reilly (film)

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Proposed move

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus. -- Kjkolb 09:05, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Reilly → Mary Reilly (film) – This so that an article can be made about Mary Reilly, the chair of the LDA. -Wser 12:48, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

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Support - I think that the page should be moved so that the chair of the LDA (Mary Reilly) can have an article. -Wser 12:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The head of an agency of one city is not globally notable. Use a hatnote to point to Mary Reilly (politician), for example. I'm not sure what her profession is, maybe (economist)? I'd avoid making the disambiguator her present office. --Dhartung | Talk 23:37, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, use a dablink to point to Mary Reilly (Londoner) as per Dhartung. 132.205.44.134 22:36, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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She can have an article without moving this page - just add a sentence to the top of this article pointing to something like Mary Reilly (London Development Agency), and then write the new article at that location. But there's no real reason to move this until that other article has been written. Also, most of the incoming links here are for the film, so the film should probably stay here. See Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Primary topic for more information about this kind of disambiguation. — sjorford ++ 15:16, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Fair use rationale for Image:Mary Reilly DVD cover.jpg

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About Length, Detailed Nature of Summary

Whoever posts that the plot summary is too long or too detailed clearly has no education at all. Making such a pronouncement is nothing but a show of pique by someone who is simply illiterate. There are no grounds within the basic purpose of Wikipedia to even make such a declaration. Who are we fearing to offend or ill-serve by a plot summary being either too long or too detailed? I would guess only that illiterate person who feels threatened by any use of words as they are unable to use words themselves.Godofredo29 (talk) 18:24, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Godofredo29: It is policy to have a concise plot summary. WP:PLOT says, "Wikipedia treats fiction in an encyclopedic manner, discussing the reception and significance of notable works in addition to a concise summary." We want to talk about the work of fiction, basically, not just detail the work itself. WP:WAF explains this further: "Wikipedia articles should describe fiction and fictional elements from the perspective of the real world, not from the perspective of the fiction itself." Like for example, this mentions a chapter called, "Monstrous love: oppression, intimacy and transformation in Mary Reilly". That is a secondary source that should be referenced in the Wikipedia article, since the articles should be based on such sources. We reference the primary source, the film, to have a summary of it so readers can know what the film is about. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 21:02, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Our positions are not mutually exclusive. We only disagree on one word, which is "concise" in concise plot summary. That is a subjective rule not based on the physical reality of Wikipedia which has no concrete limitations to just how long and detailed a plot summary might be. Obviously, the plot summary of the film Mary Reilly and really all other plot summaries I have seen similarly singled out as too long or too detailed is nowhere near too long nor too detailed and I don't believe any such plot summary exists anywhere in Wikipedia. Clearly it is just a matter of somebody's (such as the illiterate individual mentioned above)sensibilities being offended, somebody with little or no experience with the expectations of literate users of Wikipedia.Godofredo29 (talk) 00:58, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]