Talk:Mary Fowkes

A fact from Mary Fowkes appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 December 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Mary Fowkes's autopsies on COVID-19 victims helped identify long-term debilitating effects of the virus, including its impact on the heart and the brain?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Fowkes.

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 17:24, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Mary Fowkes's autopsies on COVID-19 victims helped identify long term debilitating impacts of the virus including impact on heart and brain? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/26/health/dr-mary-fowkes-dead.html
- ALT1:... that Mary Fowkes's autopsies on COVID-19 victims helped identify long term debilitating impacts of the virus including impact on heart and brain, before her own death? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/26/health/dr-mary-fowkes-dead.html

Created by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 01:12, 27 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 10:51, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Both hooks are verified. I am fine with promoting either hook. Cunard (talk) 10:51, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cause of death

The claim being made in this revert is pure original research. The New York Times source makes no claim of a link between potential (not confirmed) exposure to the virus and the subject's cause of death. Other sources explicitly state there is no connection. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:43, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To be absolutely clear, I am NOT making any claims of correlation at all, and I believe the above supposition that I am making claims of correlation is in fact WP:OR from the above editor. The article from NYT is here. To be clear the point I am making here is -- there is no reason for "death_reason = heart attack" to be removed from the infobox. I am adding two other editors who have the next highest authorship on this page to weigh in and then proceed as they deem fit. @RFD: and @Yoninah: -- please have a read and recommend as you deem fit. I will be busy with my offline activities today, so feel free to decide as appropriate and move forward. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 16:13, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The restored text attributed to The New York Times about the possibility of her being exposed to blood droplets and bone fragments appears to be a true paraphrase of the source. I also don't see the problem with citing her death from heart attack in the infobox, as that too is sourced to the NY Times. Yoninah (talk) 16:27, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The issue with that is that as per the template's documentation, that parameter should be included only when it's significant to the subject's notability, not when it is a routine cause of death. This instance clearly falls into the latter category and not the former. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:47, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I accept that. Yoninah (talk) 19:55, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I accept full responsibility for adding the categories concerning Mary Fowkes' education and occupation. Thank You-RFD (talk) 16:38, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]