Talk:Marijuana (word)

Pop culture

A banner reading Legalize Marijuana on a van at a 1977 Yippie smoke-in in Washington, D.C.

Contemporary pop culture and counterculture use

The 1968 debut album of Yippie David Peel's Manhattan band The Lower East Side, called Have a Marijuana, includes a song titled "I Like Marijuana." In 1969, Yippie Party founder Abbie Hoffman wrote "We shall do it by building a new nation—a nation as rugged as the marijuana leaf." In the song "Legalize It", recorded in 1975, Peter Tosh sings "Some call it marijuana."

The Mexican extreme metal band Brujeria's 2000 EP, titled Marijuana, was released with a complimentary book of matches. A 2010 song "Marijuana" by American hip hop artist Kid Cudi is exactly four minutes and twenty seconds long in reference to the number 420 in the marijuana subculture. A New York Off-Broadway comedy show called The Marijuana-Logues, a marijuana-themed parody of the long-running show The Vagina Monologues, included actor Tommy Chong for two cities when the production toured.

References

I have removed the random mention of songs and plays etc... this is not the page to list every time the word is used....especially with sources that don't even mention the word.....all this can be seen at Cannabis culture.--Moxy 🍁 18:06, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

I disagree. Significant, notable pop-culture use of the term is, indeed, an appropriate part of the English use section. That's exactly what this article is about. Yes, of course you're right, this isn't the place to list every time the word has ever been mentioned anywhere. The intention is to include only important instances. My style of prose may not be to your liking and I admit my writing is imperfect. However, the material itself still belongs here. It can be tweaked, as needed, but should not be removed altogether, as you have done. -- The Hammer of Thor (talk) 23:32, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

I'd been working on adding additional citations when this section was removed. The initial sources are reliable, Newsweek for instance, and they mention the word marijuana, the subject of this article. -- The Hammer of Thor (talk) 23:59, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

What you would need is sources that make the claims your making ..So lets list the sources

• The back cover of Woodstock Nation by Abbie Hoffman that mentions weed in passing in a manifesto
• ...All music guide with a fake title...with mention of the word in passing (zero cultural significances to the word but usage of the term)
• complex music - mentions a song lyric (zero cultural significances to the word but usage of the term)
• newsweek (a good source) but again zero cultural significances

So what we would need is some source that discuss the words impact....not just passing mention of the use of the word in your favorite songs etc... No way to list all in Category:Cannabis music or Category:Television series about cannabis unlesss sources are found stating its impact of the usage of the word. Feel free to start a RfC Wikipedia:Trivial mentions#Quotes from WP:Notability --Moxy 🍁 00:01, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Help me out here. What exactly are these "claims" that I'm making? I thought you didn't like the section because it was nothing more than a list. Which is it? -- The Hammer of Thor (talk) 00:24, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

p.s. I corrected the AllMusic link to read Legalize It. (It's an unimportant detail, anyway. The Contemporary pop culture use subsection remains appropriate to the English use section of the article.)

The sources do not convey that these usages are different than any other thousands of usages in the entertainment industry. What would be of interest is the first time it's used in a song..... first newspaper acknowledgement of the word... first time in the movie. It's giving undue way to some random bands.....plays etc. If we cannot show the usages is culturally significant over they just use the word it's pointless and presents original research to our readers by giving undeweight to these bands Etc. What has to be asked is do the linked article or sources lead our readers to info on the relevance of the word usage..... or does it just show that the word is used without conveying its cultural significance or why it's in this article other than the word is used.

Section should be expanded with real sources like..MARIJUANA & THE MEDIA: The Influence of Media Narratives on Legalization Outcomes - UC Davis: Sociology.....and....The privileged normalization of marijuana use – an analysis of Canadian newspaper reporting, 1997–2007 Rebecca J. Haines-Saah

a paragraph that starts something generic like..."By the 1930s marijuana was a popular term used by Jazz musicians and in exploitation movies of the era like She Shoulda Said No! That stigmatized the usage of the word"...etc...--Moxy 🍁 04:36, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the additional source. I will try to rewrite the section, citing the references, so that we're both satisfied, I hope. -- The Hammer of Thor (talk) 19:41, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Comment

Nobody thinks that the word is cognate with "Marjoram"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.124.116.101 (talk) 03:33, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

I don't know the etymology of "marijuana," but 麻仁 is definitely not from Semitic

Ma 麻, Old Chinese *C.mˤraj (where *C- refers to an unknown consonant) is a perfectly normal Chinese word meaning "hemp." Maren 麻仁 means "hemp seeds." Also perfectly normal Chinese. There's no reason to look for weird Semitic origins for any of this.--98.111.164.239 (talk) 05:30, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Conflicting etymologies

There are conflicting etymology entries in separate sections of this article. Recommend someone with better understanding connect or correct the article. Riddleme (talk) 18:32, 28 May 2022 (UTC)