Talk:Marianne Appel

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Did you know... that Marianne Appel, a WPA post office muralist, was later a Muppet designer for the The Jim Henson Company?

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I forgot

SusunW...to remove the top two lines before I put in The Under Construction banner which, looking back, was a mistake. Stuck! Gonna stop b4 I mess it up any further. Buster Seven Talk 13:12, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is it Ready?

It sure looks great to me. BTW, I've never done a DYK. Isn't that something that needs to be done very soon after the article is moved to mainspace? Let me know what the next exciting step is. Buster Seven Talk 00:47, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Buster7 I am not ready yet. Call me OCD. I do not like the reference for The Dark Crystal. I cannot believe there is no RS for it. No book references for me on that movie are accessible. We also need to work in the Falk info and confirm her death date. I just discovered her mom's name. But too tired to work on it more tonight. DYK has to be nominated within 7 days of the file going to mainspace. SusunW (talk) 04:09, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You decide when. Its just the nervous energy of "Are we there yet?" on my side. Buster Seven Talk 12:41, 9 May 2016 (UTC)][reply]

Buster7 I got the Falk materials in, found info on Carville Marine Hospital and purchase of her painting for the Met. Any chance you can find a RS for her work on The Dark Crystal? There are tons of books about its production, but I cannot access any of them from here. Have Sue working on the obit from Sarah Lawrence. SusunW (talk) 18:10, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Buster7 Oh, I also found a fair use photo that I think is useable [1] and will load when we go live. Surely there are photos in the LOC or Postal archives of the murals which were taken by government employees? Do these count if they were "taken by the supervisor of the Wrangell post office"? [2] SusunW (talk) 19:29, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will look for the Dark Crystal source tomorrow. My understanding about the image is that...because the muralists were government employees (the supervisor too), what they produced was for and paid by the public and so can be reproduced without any copyright issue. Now....we cannot freely use a private citizens photo of a mural since then it becomes property, but the Super worked for the Govt., so it should be free and clear. I'm gonna ping Moonriddengirl. She can clarify for us. Buster Seven Talk 20:44, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Buster7 Cool! I thought so too when I saw that verbiage on the photo, but I don't know for sure. SusunW (talk) 22:13, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Buster7 I added more categories. Sue found the death date. She has a reference librarian looking through trade magazines to see if we can flesh-out the puppet career. But, if you think we are ready to go live, I think we can. I don't like the references for Dark Crystal, but the British Film Institute is at least a RS. That statement that she was overlooked in favor of her counterparts, certainly comes into play. If we go live, maybe someone else will have access to sources? SusunW (talk) 14:34, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Whatever you think. As for the DYK entry...I think its very interesting that a WPA muralist winds up working for Jim Henson as a puppeteer. Buster Seven Talk 14:59, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Buster7, I totally agree. Maybe ... that Marianne Appel, a WPA post office muralist, was later a Muppet designer for the The Jim Henson Company? Do you want to move it, or do you want me to do it? It needs to be moved to an article called Marianne Appel. Then have redirects created, then have categories go live, then create talk page projects, then nominated for DYK. SusunW (talk) 15:14, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but not yet. You do it. I'll learn from watching. Buster Seven Talk 15:21, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Exhibit of artist Marianne Appel, one of Woodstock’s overlooked women artists

Is this something you can use? From this article:

the daughters of the late Woodstock artist Marianne Appel, who designed the Woodstock Village Green and its war memorial in 1946, are hosting an exhibit of Appel’s work on weekends through October 25, 2015. The show has been hung in the studio of Sarah Greer Mecklem at 30 Plochmann Lane in Woodstock, NY. Appel is among the painters featured in the current exhibit at the Woodstock School of Art: “Overlooked: Woodstock Women Artists.” The exhibit recognizes a group of artists who, despite their prodigious abilities, received less attention during their lifetimes than their male Woodstock counterparts. Appel was expressive in many genres and mediums. She created fantastic puppets of paper mache and painted murals and colorful landscapes and interior scenes; her expression was notably optimistic. The show is open weekends from 12 noon to 4 p.m. Or by appointment. Some works are available for purchase. For further information, call 845-679-6157.  Buster Seven Talk 23:28, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe calling the phone number might lead somewhere? B7

There will be editors who call this "promotional PR" and non-reliable. I found blurbs for the show in the NY Times, but it doesn't mention whose work is in it. I tried to check the The Kingston Freeman and Woostock School sites, but neither of them have archives going back into 2015. *sigh* SusunW (talk) 01:32, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]