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A fact from Marguerite Littman appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 November 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in 1997, Princess Diana donated her entire wardrobe to a charity auction organized by AIDS activist Marguerite Littman, which raised more than $3 million?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/November. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Marguerite Littman.

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:41, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that American-British socialite and southern accent coach Marguerite Littman had gotten Princess Diana to donate her entire wardrobe for an HIV/AIDS charity auction that raised over $3 million in 1997? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/06/style/marguerite-littman-dead.html https://www.nytimes.com/1999/04/04/style/if-holly-golightly-had-grown-up.html

ALT1: ~~... that American-British socialite and HIV/AIDS activist Marguerite Littman was the inspiration for the southern character Holly Golightly in Breakfast at Tiffany's?~~ Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/06/style/marguerite-littman-dead.html https://www.nytimes.com/1999/04/04/style/if-holly-golightly-had-grown-up.html

Comment: Still under my 5 submission limit; so, do not have a QPQ as of yet for this submission. Will have one completed for a subsequent submission.

Created by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 06:54, 8 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Comment. Please can I request a fellow editor to review this one. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 20:31, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, do I qualify?
Here is a review: New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. I added a "citation needed" tag to the beginning of one very long paragraph where the source would be welcome, and I also tagged the lead as being too short per WP:LEAD; please add more to summarize the article and indicate her notability.
I've struck ALT0 because it contains way too many facts, but ALT1 is great. ALT1 hook ref verified and cited inline.
Can you find an image? No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits. Yoninah (talk) 00:50, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yoninah, Thanks so much for the review. I was hoping to use the Princess Diana bit since it has more of a global appeal rather than the second one. Happy to work on trimming ALT0 blurb.

ALT2: ~~... that American-British socialite and HIV/AIDS activist Marguerite Littman had gotten Princess Diana to donate her entire wardrobe for a charity auction that raised over $3 million in 1997?~~

I expanded the lede and have also added the citation for the first line in that longish paragraph. Unfortunately, could not find a free image that satisfies WP requirements when I had given it a search a couple of days ago.

Cheers and Thanks much! Ktin (talk) 01:07, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktin: Thank you for expanding the lead and adding the cite. I added a fair-use image from 1987. You could go with ALT2, but it really is top-heavy on the descriptions of Littman and also uses the rather unencyclopedic word gotten. How would you like to shorten it further? Yoninah (talk) 16:57, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah:. Thanks for that image upload. Looks clean! Re: the hook, took a pass at trimming it further. Please see below as ALT3. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 17:15, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3: ~~... that HIV/AIDS activist Marguerite Littman had Princess Diana donate her entire wardrobe for a charity auction that raised over $3 million in 1997?~~

@Ktin: but the source says it was Diana's idea to donate her clothes. If Littman ran the auction, you could say:
ALT4: ... that Princess Diana donated her entire wardrobe to a charity auction organized by HIV/AIDS activist Marguerite Littman which raised more than $3 million in 1997? Yoninah (talk) 17:29, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Yoninah. Looks good. Let's go with this. Ktin (talk) 17:35, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Approving ALT4 as it's just a rewording of your ALT2. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 17:40, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]