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Breton's surrealist manifesto?

Meaning of Manifesto

Where did the word come from?

Manifesto is what linguists call a neoclassical word. Some pseudointellectual in a post-classical era wanted to come up with an important-sounding word for his list of alleged truisms, and so used the Latin word Manifestus, meaning "clearly evident", but changed the ending slightly. --Kaz 19:06, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It comes more immediately from Italian "manifesto", but why the Italian word was taken up I can't say. It would be (mildly) interesting to know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.10.154.93 (talk) 18:29, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unabomber

Wasn't Kascinzky's self-defense published in Hustler called "The Unabomber Manifesto"? It may be considered the manifesto of the Neo-Luddite or anti-technological movement...--Rockero 03:08, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The manifesto was published in the The Washington Post and in the The New York Times. Check out the Unabomber article. You will find the references there. Maziotis (talk) 10:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resistance Manifesto

Somebody added the Resistance Manifesto. This document looks more like a book of conspiracy theories than a political or artistic manifesto in the traditional sense. They also placed it out of chronological order. I'm considering removing it, but I'll wait to see if I get any responses.--Rockero 01:39, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Good eye. The Resistance Manifesto is a one-man campaign focused on sucking and removing the Georgia Guidestones, a stone monument. The man, called "John Conner", has been a very persistent problem over the last year or two with the "Resistance Manifesto" article (it was VfD'd but he kep re-creating it).

If his project ever gets off the ground and becomes notable then there'd be a reason to have an article about him or it. -Willmcw 07:36, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Workers' Rights Manifesto

I removed this line:

The Workers Rights Manifesto

It's an external link (no Wiki article) and doesn't appear to have been published anywhere besides the site to which the EL points. It doesn't appear to be notable enough for inclusion.--Rockero 21:04, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Possible copyright infringement.

~~ Simba 01:38, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=manifesto
The opening of the Manifesto page is identical save for a switch of words near the end to dictionary.com's primary definition of the word. I'm new to Wikipedia, so I don't know if this truly constitutes a copyright infringement, especially since I'm not sure whether dictionary.com's definitions are their copyright, but I thought it was worth pointing out, anyway.

Date inconsistency

"What is property" is listed as being published in 1850, whereas on the dedicated page for this work it is noted that it was published in 1840. I do not know which of these is the correct date, but if someone does, feel free to adjust whichever page is incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.161.177.101 (talk) 13:44, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Revolution Manifestos

the page seems to be missing manifesto's that are key to some of histories famous revolutions. Certainly the October Manifesto of 1905 in Russia is an example, Nicholas saved his reign (for the time being) by his issueing it. Although maybe not strictly manifestos- the National assemblies Declaration of the rights of man and Castro's "history will absolve me" speech are two examples of documents that would define the respective revolutionary movements cause.139.168.204.222 (talk) 08:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC) MLJR08[reply]

A Cyborg Manifesto

I would argue that, though it mentions cyborgs and technology, the Cyborg Manifesto is more of a political, feminist, socialist document rather than a technological one. I think it should be moved to the political column. Gilly027 (talk) 17:31, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Split to List of manifestos

Given that half of this article is a list of manifestos, I think it would make sense to split this article into two. The article that discusses manifestos as a genre/type of document would be in this page, and the list of manifestos would be in the other. - - mathmitch7 ^{(talk/contribs)} 18:57, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Shorouq★The★Super★ninja2 (talk) 19:06, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can we make better or improve the lead?

A manifesto usually "accepts a previously published opinion or public consensus or promotes a new idea" Hmm. Since that is true of much of everything ever written, can't that part of the sentence be excised? Bob Enyart, Denver KGOV radio host (talk) 19:51, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Religious Manifestos That Are Not Creeds

The first paragraph states "Manifestos relating to religious belief are generally referred to as creeds." and yet there religious manifestoes which are not creeds at all, since they relate to action or something other than beliefs, may be in part artistic or political as part of their intention. An example may be found here, [Manifesto Satanika http://avidyana.org/Manifesto_Satanika]. Please consider adding that category and links to such manifestos.-- self-ref (nagasiva yronwode) (talk) 02:34, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My election manifesto

Please tell me some election manifesto 103.147.216.85 (talk) 04:18, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unfocused

Although this article has been present since 2001 (!), it has not developed past a stub consisting of a definition in the lead, and the etymology section. The only other content is the § Examples section, which until today, was an inappropriate WP:EXAMPLEFARM that constituted half the article; other than the examples, and the dictionary-like stuff, there was no actual encyclopedic content about manifestos. If there's nothing more that can be said about manifestos generally than that, then that would make it subject to transwikification to Wiktionary, per WP:NOTDICT.

Another approach, would be to decide that actually this is a list article, and then as many examples as desired could be added to it, along with a brief lead describing manifestos, sort of the way the lead is now. The etymology section would not be appropriate in that scenario, and would have to be dropped; but a link to Wiktionary could be included, and any missing etymological information could be moved there.

I can see going either way: either towards:

an expanded, encyclopedic article about manifestos, generally — expand the body a lot, and limit the examples; or
a list article, renamed to "List of manifestos" — remove #Etymology, add lots more examples,

but it can't be both at the same time. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 20:34, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just realized that User:mathmitch7 already raised a similar point about making it into a list article years ago. I think he was right then, and he probably still is right now, unless we go for #1 above. Mathglot (talk) 22:32, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article should, in my opinion, either be: deleted, because an article already exists that talks about manifestos in an encyclopedic manor or; turned in to a list article, as has already been suggested. I rather foolishly made a second topic on this, making a spaghetti mess of old topics even worse. Anyone is free to archive or delete it if they wish, but I feel like what I said should maybe be copy pasted here if you choose the latter.

Our options in my opinion is redirect to the article I mentioned above, or turn it in to a list. I myself do not have the time to create a list article - I find them too time consuming - but someone has to call the shots so let me know what you guys think about it. ChillyDude153198 (talk) 17:45, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion/Merging of this article

This article has been around for a long time (Over two decades). Not only has it lacked any real development, but I find that This article not only better defines and talks about what a manifesto is, but begins its introduction with almost the exact same introduction:

"A manifesto is a written declaration of the intentions, motives, or views of the issuer, be it an individual, group, political party, or government."

"A political party platform (American English), party program, or party manifesto (preferential term in British and often Commonwealth English) is a formal set of principal goals which are supported by a political party or individual candidate, to appeal to the general public, for the ultimate purpose of garnering the general public's support and votes about complicated topics or issues."

Honestly, this article should redirect to the article on Party platforms, because they are the same thing, both in essence and practically. ChillyDude153198 (talk) 17:40, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is "Knowledge" the correct word for the lead?

"Knowledge" has a connotation of empirical truth, whereas Manifestos concern more philosophical/metaphysical subject material. I think "consensus" is more apt. Trilomonk (talk) 17:07, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]