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In the "History" section, I replaced this:

In the 18th Century, Ivan Shuvalov owned land at the corner of what is now Malaya Sadovaya Street and Italyanskaya Street, thus giving the street its first name, Shuvalov Lane. At the same time a different backstreet also called Shuvalov and a street called Novym Pereulkom (New Lane) existed in the area. The name Malaya Sadovaya (Little Garden) Street is first mentioned in 1836. On April 16, 1887, the street was renamed to Catherine Street in honor of Catherine the Great. It kept this name until the revolution.

with this:

The street, then called New Lane (Russian: Новым переулком), was first made in the 1740s. A palace belonging to Ivan Shuvalov was built here, completed in 1756, after which the street was called Shuvalov Lane. All the odd side of the street was owned by Shuvalov. His palace was at the corner of Italian Street, after which there was a small fenced garden. From this the street began to be called Little Garden Street from about 1850[3] The street was a favored walking venue for Alexander II. In 1873, the street was renamed to Catherine Street[3]in honor of Catherine the Great.[3] It kept this name until the revolution.[citation needed]

Because the latter is (mostly) documented and the former isn't. But the ref is just some website, Walking Petersburg. I don't know where they get their material. The former came from the Russian Wikipedia (where it also wasn't referenced). I also don't know where they got their material.

But the Russian Wikipedia stuff is IMO just as likely to be right. I don't think they just made up dates like "April 16, 1887" and stuff like "(Little Garden) Street is first mentioned in 1836" so they probably have a source and it's at least 50-50 to be as good the source I used. But rules are rules, got to have a ref and can't ref to a wiki. Herostratus (talk) 22:36, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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