Talk:Jezercë
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info from summit post
[edit]the Summit post ref mentions : Maja Shqelzen (2400m) on the east. Bjeshket e Nemuna mountain. Maja Radohines (2570m) mountain Qafa Pejes pass. Shtegu Denvet pass.
German
[edit]there seem to be german words in the article.
Why was Kelmendi Removed ?
[edit]In the version history : Maja Jezercë is known to be the focal point in many old tales of the Malesori people (being more specific of the Kelmendi clan). this was removed, why? James Michael DuPont (talk) 07:53, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Restoring Serbian where it should be
[edit]I am restoring Serbian language in this article as it was there for years. (2012, 2013, 2014) If you think that peak that borders with Montenegro should not have Serbian (official language) and even more language that was NAMED FOR, you should try really strong to explain it. I am sure everyone is interested to hear how one language is less important then other or similar political nationalist demagogy. I am restoring sr name as it was in this article for years before it was removed by random vandal IP. --Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 13:19, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
- I just asked you for an explanation. You finally gave it and that's OK. I do not have any problem to see a Serbian name there, I am not you. You have much problems as you see others as nationalists, even if they are just trying to help you. It is not your fault, everyone knows what means to come from a country like Serbia, a society which is mostly famous for nationalism and propaganda. If you refer to me as "nationalist" or my actions as "nationalism" or "propaganda", you will find yourself here [1]. Seriously. No one is allowed to repeat such accusation multiply times. Bye. Ktrimi991 (talk) 13:48, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
- You, @Ktrimi991, should try not to talk about other people in the first place. You are not allowed to talk about other countries or nations like that, and you have just proven that you are everything you try to hide. Society which actually is famous for nationalism and propaganda is the one you are protecting and pushing by removal of Serbian from the places you don't like, and by trying to hide hundreds of years of Serbian history. Please be very careful in the future, or you may be reported. Glad we have solved this, farewell. --Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 13:59, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
- Also, this nonsense will be reverted. Its just another try to remove word Serbian from everything connected to Albania and Kosovo, as Jezerski vrh is not Slavic but only Serbian. There is several other versions for that in other slavic languages. Jezerski vrh is only Serbian, and it was named like that per neighboring Serbian community. --Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 14:04, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
- It's another time you just accuse others of nationalism, while they use scholarship sources to back their content additions. That is what happened, I added journal and the origin matter is solved. Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:53, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- It is the last time I warn you to use the talk page. My source says: "Duket se emri me gurrë sllave Jezercë (prej “jezer” – mjegull)" Your claim that this source says Serbian is not true. In addition, not all sources say "Serbian". "Slavic" and "serbian" are not the same thing. "Slavic" includes "Serbian" but not vice versa. So a proposition is The Albanian name, Maja Jezercë, is derived from the Slavic word, probably more specifically from Serbian jezero ("lake"), and Albanian word maja ("top" or "peak"), meaning "peak of Jezero". In Slavic[6], including Serbian[7][8][9] Jezerski Vrh means "lake peak". Ktrimi991 (talk) 00:10, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- That is fine proposition, if you insist that we use Slavic, while its obvious that its Serbian. But of course, Albanian source will not use that obviously forbidden word "Serbian". But anyway, if you insist, i am fine with that. --Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 18:06, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Article in its current state is the consensus version from September. We have more then enough sources to keep word Serbian in article, and i dont think we should follow your idea. As it looks like, that is not improvement of article, but just your struggle to remove word Serbian per some ideological agenda and Wikipedia:IDONTLIKEIT. I see that clearly now in other articles your edited, i must say not properly, unfortunately. That's not the way to build good, reliable and neutral encyclopedia. Please follow Wikipedia guidelines.--Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 22:46, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- We have "sources to keep word Serbian in article" but we also have sources to remove the word from article. See your comment above where you say: That is fine proposition, if you insist that we use Slavic, while its obvious that its Serbian. But of course, Albanian source will not use that obviously forbidden word "Serbian". We both agreed and that agreement can not be undone in a such easy way. Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:13, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
- Article in its current state is the consensus version from September. We have more then enough sources to keep word Serbian in article, and i dont think we should follow your idea. As it looks like, that is not improvement of article, but just your struggle to remove word Serbian per some ideological agenda and Wikipedia:IDONTLIKEIT. I see that clearly now in other articles your edited, i must say not properly, unfortunately. That's not the way to build good, reliable and neutral encyclopedia. Please follow Wikipedia guidelines.--Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 22:46, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- That is fine proposition, if you insist that we use Slavic, while its obvious that its Serbian. But of course, Albanian source will not use that obviously forbidden word "Serbian". But anyway, if you insist, i am fine with that. --Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 18:06, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- It is the last time I warn you to use the talk page. My source says: "Duket se emri me gurrë sllave Jezercë (prej “jezer” – mjegull)" Your claim that this source says Serbian is not true. In addition, not all sources say "Serbian". "Slavic" and "serbian" are not the same thing. "Slavic" includes "Serbian" but not vice versa. So a proposition is The Albanian name, Maja Jezercë, is derived from the Slavic word, probably more specifically from Serbian jezero ("lake"), and Albanian word maja ("top" or "peak"), meaning "peak of Jezero". In Slavic[6], including Serbian[7][8][9] Jezerski Vrh means "lake peak". Ktrimi991 (talk) 00:10, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- It's another time you just accuse others of nationalism, while they use scholarship sources to back their content additions. That is what happened, I added journal and the origin matter is solved. Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:53, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
"In Slavic, including Serbian Jezerski Vrh..." is a terrible proposition. Slavic is a language family, and Jezerski Vrh is indeed in Serbian. We both agreed and that agreement can not be undone in a such easy way
?--Zoupan 05:18, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
- Why is the Serbian/Montenegrin name in the lede when the mountain peak is wholly in Albania ? Shouldn't it be moved to the name section ?Resnjari (talk) 12:41, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yes Resnjari, it should. The disruptive edit of Zoupan is unstable as it directly breaks an already existing agreement. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:02, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
- Why is the Serbian/Montenegrin name in the lede when the mountain peak is wholly in Albania ? Shouldn't it be moved to the name section ?Resnjari (talk) 12:41, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
@Resnjari: Agree that Serbian is unneeded in the lede.--Zoupan 20:15, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
- Reverted removal of sources that was not agreed. --Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 20:02, 6 March 2017 (UTC)