Talk:Magnus Olsen

Good article status

Just a few quick tips.

• The University of Oslo was not called that at the time, please avoid the anachronism.
• Replace hyphens with endashes where applicable.
• Single-sentence paragraphs and single-sentence sections should be avoided, and thus expanded or merged with other sections.
• The See also section is probably too long and should be converted to prose entirely. Can you write prose about these persons in context with Olsen?

Geschichte (talk) 14:16, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips. I have now made an attempt at implementing the suggestions. Krakkos (talk) 16:46, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

These are substantial improvements. It will now stand a better change at Good Article Review. Thanks! 22:13, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Magnus Olsen/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 21:37, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Comments

I'll be reviewing this interesting and well-constructed article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:37, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

• "which was founded by him." -> "which he founded."

• It might be an idea to provide English translations of the 'Selected publications' titles [in square brackets].

There is really very little that this article needs, but a little copy-editing would perhaps be a good thing. I've fixed some very small issues with English.

• For example, "Following the death of Bugge" -> "After Bugge's death".

• The Bugge succession is stated twice! Maybe remove the second one, or better, merge the entries.

• Perhaps "Philologist" would be a better heading than the rather general "University professor?

• Turvill-Petre 1964 is used in the references, so it should be in "Sources" rather than "Further reading" (where Johannessen however still belongs).

Well, that's about it from me. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, Chiswick Chap. I have now modified the article in accordance with your recommendations. Krakkos (talk) 14:31, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Some of the trans-titles need to be filled in? Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:06, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Done. Y Krakkos (talk) 15:48, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Super, it's a GA. Thank you for constructing such a nice article. I hope you'll take the time to pick an article or two to review from the ever-growing GAN queue. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:20, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Great! Thanks for the suggestion. I'll see what i can do. Krakkos (talk) 16:43, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:08, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Magnus Olsen

• ... that the investigations of Scandinavian place names by Magnus Olsen (pictured) were instrumental in restoring confidence in Icelandic literature as a useful source for information on Old Norse religion? Source: Turville-Petre, Gabriel (1964). Myth and Religion of the North: The Religion of Ancient Scandinavia. Greenwood Press. p. IX. ISBN 0837174201. Outstanding modern works are those of J de Vries and G. Dumézil, to which reference will frequently be made in the following pages. Many have disputed the revolutionary conclusions of Dumézil, but the significance of his keen observations cannot be questioned. It is not too much to say that this scholar has restored out confidence in the validity of Norse tradition as it is expressed in the literary records of Iceland. In quite another way the studies of the late Magnus Olsen, who has investigated Scandinavian place-names in the light of ancient literature, have be no less important.
  • ALT1:... that Magnus Olsen (pictured) helped make the University of Oslo a pre-eminent institution on Germanic philology? Source: Schulz-Berend, George; Lehmann, Winfred P.; Miller, David L.; Wilson, A. Leslie (1976). "In Memoriam: Lee M. Hollander" (PDF). University of Texas at Austin. Archived from the original (PDF) on July 9, 2003. Retrieved October 2, 2020.
  • ALT2:... that Magnus Olsen (pictured) founded the journal Maal og Minne, which he edited for more than forty years? Source: Rindal, Magnus (13 February 2009). "Magnus Olsen". Norsk biografisk leksikon. Retrieved 20 December 2020.
  • ALT3:... that Magnus Olsen (pictured) is considered the foremost Norwegian philologist of his time? Source: Rindal, Magnus (13 February 2009). "Magnus Olsen". Norsk biografisk leksikon. Retrieved 20 December 2020. Magnus Olsen var den fremste norske filolog i si tid.

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lillian Michelson

Improved to Good Article status by Krakkos (talk). Self-nominated at 20:05, 11 February 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:

Image eligibility:

• Freely licensed: - I'm not a copyright specialist, so I'd like a second opinion, but the licensing looks like it might have issues. The license template says it's public domain in countries where term is life + 70 years, but since the author is unknown, it's unclear that that applies. The template also asks for a U.S. public domain template to be included, but that is missing.
• Used in article:
• Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: As a GA, article has been reviewed and affirmed to be in good shape, so I'm assuming compliance with neutrality/copyright etc. The picture has quite substantial JPEG artifacts. If we're able to resolve the licensing issues, it'd be good to get it from a higher-quality source.

Hooks are generally cited. For ALT1, hook appears to support that he helped keep the university preeminent, not make it preeminent.

On the interestingness criterion, the hooks suffer somewhat from being either too technical or for just asserting his importance without offering anything unusual that might pique someone's interest or explain why someone not super into philology should care about him. Sorry, but as a reader, I wouldn't really be tempted to click on any of them as currently written. Let me comb through the article and see if I can find anything better, and open to additional suggestions. (I also acknowledge I take a harder stance on interestingness than most DYK reviewers, so if others find the hooks interesting enough, I won't stand in the way.) {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 21:50, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Following up, I think that his resistance activities during the Nazi occupation of Norway are probably what'd be most likely to draw in readers. (I know it's not the biggest part of his life, but DYK hooks don't need to be comprehensive, just to get people to click.) If you found any particularly interesting details about what precisely caused him to be arrested or what happened to him when he was, those might make a good hook. Otherwise, something like this might be good:

ALT4: ... that Old Norse scholar Magnus Olsen (pictured) was imprisoned for resisting the Nazi occupation of Norway as dean of the University of Oslo? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 22:16, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for this thorough review. I have added the more appropriate license to the image. Well done on developing this hook. It appears that Olsen was arrested for criticizing the Nazi German occupiers. If the original hook is indeed too technical or difficult to simplify, I'm perfectly fine with opting for ALT4 as the hook. Krakkos (talk) 22:43, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

License now looks good, as it was released here. Overall, ready to go. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 08:13, 12 February 2021 (UTC)