Talk:Ojamajo Doremi
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Genres
[edit]Please note that when a genre—or any content—is under dispute, it must have a reliable source per the verifiability policy before it can be included. Adding a genre simply because "you watched it" isn't enough. Such interpretations are a violation of Wikipedia's policy against original research. Original research is any material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist. This includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to advance a position not advanced by the sources. You can't call something a "tragedy" or "slice of life" if there are no reliable, published sources stating such. 24.149.117.220 (talk) 21:43, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Ojamajo Doremi Anime Genres
[edit]Does this anime need the comedy genre since it has funny moments? And if you have any more fitting genres that relate to what the anime has to put in the main page's anime infobox, add it if you feel like it. --180.72.66.61 (talk) 07:11, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- I have reverted your edits because they failed Wikipedia's policy on venerability and also appear to be original research as they were based on personal interpretation. —Farix (t | c) 11:40, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- (SAME PERSON WHO POSTED THE SECOND THREAD OF THIS TALK PAGE) Okay. --180.72.66.61 (talk) 06:44, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Oh, you oblivious contributor, you... wait, that's me!
- By the way, you now have an account now. Cool. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 13:26, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- (SAME PERSON WHO POSTED THE SECOND THREAD OF THIS TALK PAGE) Okay. --180.72.66.61 (talk) 06:44, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
Requested move 25 July 2018
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: consensus to retain the current title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 21:30, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Ojamajo Doremi → Magical DoReMi – Undiscussed move from 2013. Title guidelines are clear; we use the English title. WP:NCUE. Pelliesh (talk) 10:58, 25 July 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 22:19, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- This is a contested technical request (permalink). — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 12:18, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- I suppose I should clarify: The most recent RM was in favor of a move to Magical DoReMi, and the page was moved. A few years later, it was moved back without discussion. There had been a previous MOS:TM argument on the talk page about whether it should be Magical DoReMi or Magical Doremi; the official English title is the former. Pelliesh (talk) 13:27, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- I gathered that there was consensus to move to Magical DoReMi in 2010. Since the undiscussed move back again went unchallenged for several years I consider it better to have another RM. I don't see any issue with the English name, only potential disagreement over the caps. But there is also the edit summary for the move
02:30, 4 October 2013 Magicperson6969 (talk | contribs) moved page Magical DoReMi to Ojamajo Doremi over redirect (This title is more common. Plus the name "Magical DoReMi" was only used in the english dub of a single season.) (thank)
which deserves some examination. And what is MaGiCal DoReMi doing? — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 13:51, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- I gathered that there was consensus to move to Magical DoReMi in 2010. Since the undiscussed move back again went unchallenged for several years I consider it better to have another RM. I don't see any issue with the English name, only potential disagreement over the caps. But there is also the edit summary for the move
- Oppose Looking at the more recent coverage by English language sources, it is clear that "Ojamajo Doremi" is the title used to refer to the work.[1][2][3][4][5] WP:NCUE states that the "title of an article should generally use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language, as you would find it in reliable sources". The above source, all of them published after the short lived 4Kids adaptation, show that Ojamajo Doremi is the title that is commonly used in the English language. —Farix (t | c) 15:23, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. Title guidelines indeed ARE very clear, the English name it is commonly known by is Ojamajo Doremi, not Magical DoReMi. Just because some ancient failed dub happened twelve years ago that only covered one season doesn't mean it should be renamed to an obscure name "Magical DoReMi". WP:NCUE specifically states "use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language, as you would find it in reliable sources" - which is Ojamajo Doremi. Rctgamer3 (talk) 19:43, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support. Many Western publications use this name, and Toei themselves have used it on their official website. I feel like a lot of you are judging based on your distaste of the English dub that actually came out and ignoring the fact that this is Toei's official name for the series in Western media. This name was long used in international media for European and Latin American dubs far before the English dub ever came out. Plus, a simple search on Google brings about 1,680,000 search results while "Ojamajo Doremi" only brings in 884,000 results. Most people who aren't hardcore fans know this by the name "Magical DoReMi." lullabying (talk) 07:55, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. I agree the guidelines are very clear, name it is commonly known in english sources by is Ojamajo Doremi, not Magical DoReMi. Only one english dubber named it "Magical DoReMi". Among all the series fans in english texts, the name has always been referred to as Ojamajo Doremi. As an extra note, "Magical Doremi" completely erases the original meaning of the title from a meaningful related to the intentions of the series Brunoais (talk) 21:20, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - stylism not used in third-party English sources. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:21, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - as all oppose arguments above. Dreamy Jazz talk | contribs 21:37, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Ojamajo Doremi Twenties (20)
[edit]Just a heads-up before anything happens: Ojamajo Doremi 20 has not been confirmed by officially and fan reports are not a valid source. Only add this information once media outlets confirm this or Toei gives an official press release! lullabying (talk) 02:35, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Edit war
[edit]@Rctgamer3: @Lucas two: The recent edit war suggests there is a disagreement as to whether the light novels are considered sequels. Please discuss before continuing to revert each other's edits. lullabying (talk) 01:05, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- I know. Hence why I stopped because of 3RR. This is a debatable subject. As far as I know, there are no sources that prove the light novel series to be canon therefore a sequel to the regular TV series. To prevent false information, it's best to leave any unsourcced suggestions that it is out of the article and leave the article as-is. Rctgamer3 (talk) 20:41, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- That's a bit hard to say. The novels were written by one of the series writers and there were CD drama adaptations of the books where the original cast was involved. What makes it not canon at this point? lullabying (talk) 20:46, 19 June 2021 (UTC)