Talk:Lynmouth Flood

ive added material from Project cumulus[edit]

I do not know which article is most informative or complete Lynmouth Flood or Project Cumulus. They are both relevant. The Lynmouth entry also has a section on the flood.Johnvr4 (talk) 17:29, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good better then last time Shaox657huds (talk) 12:16, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Material removed[edit]

I removed material I determined to be inaccurate which I described in my edit summary as ~~possible vandalism~~ Consensus is that this was uncivil and I apologize for any offense.Johnvr4 (talk) 16:27, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok Shaox657huds (talk) 12:16, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Forbes article confirms cloud seeding with Sulphur possibly used in Lynmouth[edit]

There are several misrepresentations and issues in this article:

- The BBC Radio 4 documentary labelled as "conspiracy theory" is not included correctly in the link section - it is said "The theory was fuelled by a 2001 BBC Radio 4 documentary, which suggested that the events of 1952 were connected to Project Cumulus." This is the place where the link to the BBC article should be placed, otherwise one could think it is not available anymore and the position later on where the link is set is not very prominent or effective

- Instead the first links in the sentence where it is falsely proclaimed that the Project Cumulus is nonexistent do not contain the BBC link, just books you can not check

- This is tendentious

- Philip Eden's allegations were published in a small and not very important site - if they were of sense, someone bigger would have published them

- Other media like the famous German newspaper "Die Zeit" state that Project Cumulus is suspected to be a military program that caused the disaster

- He contradicts himself, saying "The storm which caused the 1952 disaster was not confined to the Lynmouth district. " while in reality "The East and West Lyn rivers, which drop rapidly down from Exmoor, were swollen even before the fatal storm." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1516880.stm

- In addition "Survivors tell how the air smelled of sulphur on the afternoon of the floods" is confirmed by many articles and research, including FORBES: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2017/06/22/seeding-the-clouds-should-we-mess-with-our-earths-climate/#5714e6a696cd

- "Seeding The Clouds - Should We Mess With Our Earth's Climate?" ... "Seeding clouds as a way to change weather began its history as a serious science during WWII, originally as a way to interrupt severe storms or to produce rain and snow."

 "After much research, we seem to have settled on a few possible methods for increasing the Earth's albedo. One, inject sulphur dioxide (SO2) into the stratosphere where it oxidizes to form sulfate aerosol particles which scatter incoming sunlight." --109.75.92.42 (talk) 22:35, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unreliable. Alexbrn (talk) 16:08, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Middleham[edit]

Is it worth creating a draft on the town of Middleham? Currently clicking the link simply redirects to this page itself. Anyone have any good sources for the town itself? 2A0A:EF40:4BC:6C01:58D0:9E1B:4532:21B1 (talk) 17:56, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the article, I think perhaps not. There does not seem to have been a town – it describes it as a small group of houses so it sounds like it was at the most a hamlet or something else less than a village. Would we usually have an article on a vanished settlement that was so tiny? It might be that what we have now is as good as it will get. I have removed the circular link from this article back to itself – I cannot see what good it was doing. DBaK (talk) 18:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We would certainly be justified in creating such a draft (If anyone wants to, and they can find enough material to make a draft worth reading). Middleham is clearly notable, there's a monument to its absence. Although, given its proximity, especially today, it might be better started as a section within Lynmouth. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:49, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are 9 houses and a school there in the 1870s-1890s [1] (note that there are two 25 inch maps with it). There's some misalignment between the older maps and the overlay, but it does seem as if Middleham wasn't destroyed merely by the flood, but also lost the site of the row of houses owing to the flood alleviation works afterwards, when the East Lyn had its channel widened. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:48, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]