Talk:Luis Castillo (second baseman)

Luis Castillo (second baseman) was one of the Sports and recreation good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
January 13, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
August 26, 2009	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

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1997 Injury Comment

In 1997 Luis Castillo was sent to the minors not even half way through the season where he went to play the rest of the season. He wasn't injured during the World Series like this article suggests. Castillo came off the DL in May and continued to play until the acquisition of Craig Counsell. After Counsell's arrival he was beat out for 2B and sent back to the minors to work on his base running and hitting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.35.75.64 (talk) 17:24, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

After reviewing this, there's a lot of work to be done yet for it to reach GA. The lead is one sentence. That's not gonna cut it, it needs to be much better than that. Y The Florida Marlins section needs to not be one giant paragraph. Split it up into a few nice ones. Y Surely the Minnesota/New York section can be over a paragraph since he spent two seasons there. Y Plus, a lot of his accomplishments should be able to be entwined in the article. Y If you can, try and add some non-baseball info in, like his family or otherwise. That I know is difficult though.

In conclusion, I have to fail this for now. It's well on its way though. I can try making this a GA myself if you want, but do what's listed above so that it can at least get to "on hold" status for GA. Wizardman 20:32, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I'll look it over again. (I'd improve it myself and repost it, but with how bad the backlog is it wouldn't be seen for at least a month) Wizardman 02:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article Assessment

Hi, I have reviewed the article according to the Good Article criteria. For the record my knowledge of baseball is very limited, so you are getting a review from this perspective; although this should be an advantage I hope! I will place the article on hold, I'll do this for at least one week unless all problems are addressed. Following one week however I make no promises. I'll list the issues/problems I have here according to the criteria:

1. It is well written.

~~In the lead you start using MLB without any explanation. Before an abbreviation is used should follow the full word (e.g. Major League Baseball (MLB).~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 11:49, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~N - Shudde ^talk 03:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 13:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Second sentence is poorly written "He currently has been scelected to the MLB All Star Team three times" Apart from spelling, is just bad English. How about "He has been selected for the MLB All Star Team three times" No need for currently in there. Y STORMTRACKER 94 11:50, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~N "to" and not "for"? - Shudde ^talk 03:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 13:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm worried that with the statistics in the lead they will need to be updated very regularly. Can this be avoided? Obviously something like the number of All Star teams and awards and things rarely change, but many of those stats do. Y STORMTRACKER 94 11:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~How about you mention when he started playing, and who he played with in the lead? This is important info that won't change.~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 21:08, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~"Castillo has batted .294 with 24 home runs" Excuse my ignorance, but what is .294? Can this be wiki-linked or something so people like me can find out?~~ Y Already wikilinked- batting average and home runs. STORMTRACKER 94 21:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Should RBI should be written "run batted in (RBI)" in the first instance.~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 21:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Please link the following if possible, in their first instance; inning, optioned, AAA, BBWAA, NLCS~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 21:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think I understand, but it's not made explicitly clear, Castillo was signed by a MLB team (Florida Marlins) but initially was loaned out (or whatever) to lower division teams early in his career? I don't completely understand how this works and would be nice if it was made clear in the article. Y STORMTRACKER 94 21:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Please wiki-link dates such as "July 28", I really hate it because where I'm from people generally write 28 July instead. With the wiki-linking it's formatted to however people like it.~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~"and never came back to the major league level"? and never? Doesn't make sense. How about "and did not"~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

*"remained on the Charlotte Knights" remained with? Y STORMTRACKER 94 22:48, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~You wiki-link several terms multiple times in the article; such as, but not exclusively "batting average" and RBI. Please fix this.~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~What's a "short hitting streak"?~~ Y Hitting streak is wikilinked. STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~"May 10- May 17" either say "to" or follow WP:DASH, same with "August 1-7"~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~"lead-off hitters"?~~
- ~~N - Shudde ^talk 03:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 12:26, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~"10 triples" they are? same with "425th walk"~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~"Rule 5 selection"?~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~It's obviously American dollars (25 million), but you should say that.~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

~~The publisher of the websites used should be included in the reference.~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 22:48, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We be good if you could find some different sources for career information. I have absolutely no doubt there are some out there.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

~~Could more be said about the 2003 World Series? Surely this was a career highlight for him.~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 22:37, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Says he played in the 1997 World Series in the accomplishments section but this isn't mentioned in the rest of the article? What's going on here?~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 22:37, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing about his personal life. Even one paragraph about family and background would be enough here.
- ~~N - Shudde ^talk 03:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)~~ Y STORMTRACKER 94 22:24, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

4. It is neutral.

Fine here

5. It is stable.

No problems here.

6. It is illustrated, where possible and appropriate, by images.

Image is acceptable and appropriate.

Thats all I have found. The main problems are things to do with how the article is written, rather then the material in it. As someone without much knowledge of baseball I found the article very difficult to read, with too many abbreviations and jargon unexplained. Avoiding jargon as much as possible helps obviously. The only other thing is there is no info on his family or personal background. This really is necessary to meet the "broad coverage" requirement. Hopefully this can all be sorted in seven days. I'd hate to fail this article because of the large backlog at WP:GAN. Any questions feel free to leave a message on my talk page. - Shudde ^talk 23:39, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have clearly not done everything I listed. One big thing is there has been absolutely nothing added on his personal life. See my

marks above. - Shudde ^talk 03:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Passed GA. I am not 100% confident this would survive a Reassessment because one sentence on his personal life may not be enough. This section should certainly be expanded. Congratulations on the article. - Shudde ^talk 20:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2009 season

The leading MLB in preseason walks thing is troublesome. It mentions his 56 at bats, but a walk of course doesn't count as an at bat. I would substitute the number of plate appearances, but I don't know it.

Maybe just delete the mention to how many at bats?

Or, in six months from now, will anyone even care about this? Maybe it should be deleted altogether. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.182.172.229 (talk) 17:06, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Yankees scored two runs after Luis Castillo dropped a popup with two outs in the ninth inning for a wild 9-8 win over the Mets —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.161.156.130 (talk) 05:33, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is this page locked? Someone should change On Friday June 12th, Castillo personally handed the Yankees a 9-8 win when he dropped a routine fly ball with 2 outs in the 9th. The Mets had been leading 8-7. Castillo said after the game "I should of had it" as it's not very impatial, has no references for quote and is missing a full stop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.44.206.36 (talk) 11:29, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Possible Reassessment

Can the New York Mets section be sourced? I know nothing about baseball but I think it needs a bit of work to stay as a GA. Spiderone (talk) 17:11, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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