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Hero of the Luhansk People's Republic was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 1 November 2023 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Luhansk People's Republic. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Head of the Luhansk People's Republic was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 20 September 2023 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Luhansk People's Republic. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Peace to Luhanshchyna was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 7 July 2023 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Luhansk People's Republic. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Prime Minister of the Luhansk People's Republic was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 11 April 2023 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Luhansk People's Republic. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Lugansk People's Republic was copied or moved into 2014 insurgency in Donetsk and Luhansk with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

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Delete territorial control map

The territorial control map should be deleted as this article is about an entity that exists under Russian law, not about the military situation on the territory of the LPR. The territorial control vs. claimed territory distinction can be made by using a lighter shade of red on the map of the Russian federal subjects just below the current territorial control map.

If the territorial control map is to remain on this article, then it would make sense to add such a map for Jammu and Kashmir, Taiwan, and the Gaza Strip. Mysteriousgadfly (talk) 04:54, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure I understand your point. I think it's useful for the reader to know how much of LPR is under the Russian control, and the map doesn't mislead or misinform the reader. Alaexis_¿question? 06:49, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not getting it either. The Russian law includes territories currently controlled by Ukraine in what it names as Luhansk People's Republic. IMO, it's perfectly alright to show the extent of Russian claims in this article, much like we show the extent of Ukrainian claims at Luhansk Oblast. — kashmīrī ^TALK 10:59, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By that logic, the territorial control map should be added to the Luhansk Oblast page as well. Mysteriousgadfly (talk) 04:32, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that they are seeking to imply that it has more legitimacy by removing the info that says that it is (merely) territory currently under control of Russian military forces. North8000 (talk) 12:38, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But what a state is, essentially? Any state? A territory under a varying degree of forced control? — kashmīrī ^TALK 12:42, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are matters of degree. And this one, which is just militarily occupied territory during an active war, is at the far end of the spectrum. North8000 (talk) 13:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is not merely a militarily occupied territory, as it declared de-facto independence which lasted from 2014 to 2022, during which it was recognized by 3 UN member states, and is now a federal subject of Russia as defined by Russian law. Mysteriousgadfly (talk) 04:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead section

The last paragraph of the lead section describes the pre-annexation "separatist" situation. It should be moved earlier in the lead, describing the separatist entity before annexation, and changed mostly to past tense. Also, naming the current leader/Head is not necessary in the lead, the infobox is for that. Paragraph in question follows:

The Head of the Luhansk People's Republic is Leonid Pasechnik. According to a report by the French Institute of International Relations (IFRI), the ideology of the LPR is shaped by elements of right-wing Russian nationalism, Russian imperialism and Orthodox fundamentalism.^[1] Organizations such as the UN Human Rights Office and Human Rights Watch have reported human rights abuses in the LPR, including internment, torture, extrajudicial killings, forced conscription, as well as political and media repression. Ukraine views the LPR and DPR as terrorist organisations.^[2]

Mats84 (talk) 13:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC) Mats84 (talk) 13:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ Likhachev, Vyacheslav (July 2016). "The Far Right in the Conflict between Russia and Ukraine" (PDF). Russie.NEI.Visions in English. pp. 25–26. Retrieved 1 March 2022. The ideas of Russian imperial (and, to some extent, ethnic) nationalism and Orthodox fundamentalism shaped the official ideology of the DNR and LNR. ... It can therefore be argued that the official ideology of the DNR and LNR, which developed under the influence of Russian far-right activists, is largely right-wing, conservative and xenophobic in character.
^ "Ukraine's prosecutor general classifies self-declared Donetsk and Lugansk republics as terrorist organizations". Kyiv Post. 16 May 2014. Archived from the original on 24 February 2016. Retrieved 18 February 2016.

[Likhachev_25-26-1] Likhachev, Vyacheslav (July 2016). "The Far Right in the Conflict between Russia and Ukraine" (PDF). Russie.NEI.Visions in English. pp. 25–26. Retrieved 1 March 2022. The ideas of Russian imperial (and, to some extent, ethnic) nationalism and Orthodox fundamentalism shaped the official ideology of the DNR and LNR. ... It can therefore be argued that the official ideology of the DNR and LNR, which developed under the influence of Russian far-right activists, is largely right-wing, conservative and xenophobic in character.

[terrorist1-2] "Ukraine's prosecutor general classifies self-declared Donetsk and Lugansk republics as terrorist organizations". Kyiv Post. 16 May 2014. Archived from the original on 24 February 2016. Retrieved 18 February 2016.

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