Talk:Lucerne hammer
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Merge with Bec du corbin
[edit]Differentiating between the two seems forced. No evidence is provided that any contemporary source explicitly considered these distinct weapons, rather than the two names just being a regional distribution. I will merge the articles eventually, if no arguments to the contrary are provided. Korn (talk) 09:59, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Both the entries of Lucerne hammer and Bec du corbin have the same article reference. In the very first section:
- "Poleaxe" is the medieval name used by the English for the long-handled footman's warhammer, regardless of whether it actually had an axe head or not. These same weapons could be called bec-de-corbin, or bec-de-faucon in French (depending on the shape of the back spike,) or fussstreithammer in German, or martello d'arme in Italian. Lucerne hammer is a more modern (19th century) name that may include many of the same weapons. The name derives from the Swiss town of Lucerne where a particular poleaxe with a long-pronged hammer head was very popular.
- It makes sense to merge the two entries with the poleaxe entry. People see some slightly different weapon and think it deserves a separate name (in this case: a poleaxe with a hammer and pick, instead of axe and hammer), while it is simply a variety of the same weapon.2A02:1810:2F1F:E300:95D0:D762:FC85:FA1D (talk) 17:17, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
- A hammer is not an axe, and so a polehammer is not a poleaxe. Elias (talk) 12:03, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- 'Polehammer' is a term used modernly, but has no historical validity. As referenced above, the same weapon was called pollaxe/poleaxe, regardless of even having an axe blade. 2A02:1810:2F1F:E300:789D:D3F9:2230:5A55 (talk) 19:09, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- A hammer is not an axe, and so a polehammer is not a poleaxe. Elias (talk) 12:03, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]The depicted weapon has literally none of the elements described as essential. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7E:75B:6000:7026:929A:9626:E9E0 (talk) 13:32, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
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