Talk:Lovesick Girls

Notability

Hello, Personally, it’s great to have one more article to edit, but this page is lacking content. All it has is a short background section, a release history, and a top. I feel like this article doesn’t meet Wikipedia notability standards. I am thinking of blanking the page and redirecting it to The Album (Blackpink album). It just doesn’t make sense to have a very short article with three sources! If anyone wants to expand, I’m fine with that. Thanks! Doggy54321 (talk) 10:48, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Lovesick Girls/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Nkon21 (talk · contribs) 06:00, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 10:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   c. (OR):

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

This will be got on with right away! --K. Peake 10:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Infobox looks good!
• Mention in the first sentence that it was recorded for their debut studio album, The Album (2020); re-word the later sentence to simply mentioning its release date as the album's third single with labels
• "It was written by" shouldn't this be written and composed per the body's wording and are commas not used before "and" in lists for Japanese English? Also, move the writing/production before release info in the lead.
• The production is not directly mentioned in prose in the body, which needs to be for writing in the lead
• ""Lovesick Girls" is a" → "It is a"
• "from EDM. Its lyrics explore" → "from EDM and punk rock, with lyrics exploring" with the wikilink
• "received praise from music critics" should have the pipe from music critics to Music journalism, however is "widespread acclaim" possible to be noted here since these reviews are glowing looking at the level of praise?
• "Commercially, "Lovesick Girls" peaked at" → "Commercially, the song peaked at"
• Pipe Gaon Digital Chart to Circle Digital Chart
• Remove wikilinks on Malaysia and Singapore
• "It received platinum certifications in streaming" → "The song received platinum certifications in streaming from both" mentioning the names of the certification bodies, doing this for Australia gold certification too
• "Its accompanying music video," → "An accompanying music video," with the wikilink and the director needs to be sourced in the body
• Keep the sixth biggest debut fact on YouTube but remove the 61.4 million views from lead, as this is too much detail for here
• Add a sentence about what happens in the video
• Mention what year the music performances were

 Done

Background and release

• Should it be mentioned that the teasers were for The Album per the source?
• "on September 28." → "on September 27." per the source's year
• "concept teaser" where is this part mentioned by the sources?
• "The next day," → "On September 29, 2020,"
• "on October 2, serving" → "on October 2, 2020, serving" per this being a new para
• The song is with, not featuring, Selena Gomez
• "which was released in" → "which were released in"
• Pipe digital download to Music download
• Pipe streaming to Streaming media

 Done

Composition and lyrics

• Audio sample needs rationale completed and also, add mention of the lyrics on the text here
• Why no mention of actual producers at this point?
• "Stylistically, it is a" → "Musically, "Lovesick Girls" is a"
• "wrote how "Their voices are" → "wrote that Blackpink's voices "are"
• Only British Vogue should be italicized in the publication's title and identify the author by name in prose
• Img looks good!
• "explore owning independence" → "explores owning independence"
• "as "heartfelt anthem" → "as "a heartfelt anthem" and add the name of the author
• Use the name of Sue Ng instead of Young Post and the author should not be italicized
• [22] should be invoked after the quotation sentence too

 Done

Critical reception

• Identify as music critics and going back to what I mentioned in the lead about the summary, these reviews are highly positive so maybe widespread acclaim would be suited here?
• "with a fresh aesthetic."" → "with a fresh aesthetic"." per MOS:QUOTE
• Pipe Insider to Insider (website) per MOS:LINK2SECT
• "a "EDM-flavored" → "an "EDM-flavored"
• "smash hit" → "2019 hit single" since the former does not have neutrality
• I am not sure if BuzzFeed should be used here per WP:BUZZFEED and if you can justify, mention the reviewer's name and also cite what she said makes the song a masterpiece like the vocals for instance
• Like above, mention that Zwick did praise their vocals
• "Kat Moon from Time agreed," → "Moon from Time agreed," per this reviewer having been introduced previously
• "of 'As If It's Your Last'", which" → "of 'As If It's Your Last'" in 2017, which"
• Add the name of the Dazed reviewer
• "and highlighted how" → "and highlighting how"
• Mention the name of DJ from the CNN Philippines source and this should not be italicized
• "years to come."" → "years to come"."

 Done

Accolades

• Are you sure there should not be a comma before the "and" that follows Music Bank?
• I appreciate most of the first para is a summary of the later information sourced, however since the Inkigayo sentence mentions the "triple crown" you should add a reference there
• Pipe Gaon Chart Music Awards to Circle Chart Music Awards, also my translation is showing this award as song of the year?

 Done

Commercial performance

• Remove the second week in the top 10 per WP:CHARTTRAJ
• Add a ref for the weeks on Global Excl. US too since this chart is not on the Global 200 history
• "In the United States, "Lovesick Girls" debuted" → "In the US, "Lovesick Girls" debuted" per MOS:US
• The seventh chart-topper part is not sourced
• Pipe Gaon Digital Chart to Circle Digital Chart
• Like previous, the second track for top two is not sourced
• Pipe RIS to Recording Industry Association Singapore
• No sourcing for the European group of countries and shouldn't there be a comma before the number 78 peak?

 Done

Music video

• Img looks good!
• Wikilink music video
• "On September 30, the group" → "On September 30, 2020, the group"
• "18 hours after its release." → "18 hours after release."
• "It garnered 61.4 million views in its first 24 hours, making it" → "The visual garnered 61.4 million views in its first 24 hours, becoming"
• Shouldn't there be a comma before Rosé and also, the source says Cadillac not Oldsmobile
• "before flashbacking to the members" → "before moving forward to the members" or something similar, per the source and the ref should be re-invoked here with the direct quoting of lyrics
• "strikes them in many different ways," → "strikes them in various ways," to not copy the source exact
• Pipe day-glo to Day-Glo Color Corp.
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on guitar
• Either mention the city by name if this is known or change to "sprints throughout the streets"
• "on October 7 with" → "on October 7, 2020, with"

 Done

Live performances and other usage

• Img looks good!
• Mention when the promotion was on those music programs
• "In the United States, Blackpink performed" → "In the US, Blackpink performed" per MOS:US
• "on November 25." → "on November 25, 2020."
• The Music Station appearance should mention they appeared to perform the song if this was done
• Mention that an extended intro was used on the tour and there is no date sourced for the tour's beginning nor the 66 shows
• "during the group's headlining sets" → "during Blackpink's headlining sets"
• Wikilink Coachella to itself and mention the rainbow streamers from this performance
• Wouldn't the television usage be more suitable to mention the scene it appeared in of the film rather than being mentioned as a soundtrack song?
• Wikilink "From Beer to Paternity" per MOS:LINK2SECT

 Done

Credits and personnel

• Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel
• For a consistent order, Brian Lee should either be after the lyricists or composers should come before those only credit as lyricists

 Done

Charts

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION

 Not done per Template:Screen reader-only and a discussion at WT:ACCESS several months ago, which essentially stated that using the template is no problem.

• Pipe Gaon Music Chart to Circle Chart

 Done

Certifications

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION
• I appreciate the effort, however the 100 million figures are obviously not accurate especially with less than that number in South Korea!

 Not done Not sure what you mean here, as platinum cert = 100 million streams in SoKor

Release history

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION

See also

• Remove List of Billboard Global Excl. U.S. number ones of 2020 since that is a redirect to the Global one

 Done

References

• Copyvio score looks great at 30.9%!!!
• The refs are inconsistent; for some of them you wikilink the sources on multiple refs but others only once, please do one or the other
• Pipe uDiscoverMusic to Universal Music Group on ref 5
• Wikilink Universal Music Japan on ref 9
• Wikilink Spotify on ref 10
• Pipe Tidal to Tidal (service) and Melon to Melon (online music service) on ref 12
• Cite Rappler as publisher instead on ref 14
• Pipe Consequence of Sound to Consequence (publication) on ref 16
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with refs 19 and 71
• Cite StyleCaster as publisher instead on ref 20
• Wikilink The Korea Herald on ref 21
• Remove Young Post from ref 22 and cite South China Morning Post as newspaper instead
• Pipe Insider to Insider (website) on ref 24 per MOS:LINK2SECT
• Remove or replace ref 26 per WP:BUZZFEED unless you can justify
• Cite Sputnikmusic as publisher instead on ref 28
• Cite CNN Philippines as publisher instead on ref 31
• Cite RTHK as publisher instead on ref 36
• Cite Recording Industry Association of Malaysia as publisher instead on ref 53
• Cite Recording Industry Association Singapore as publisher instead with the wikilink on ref 54
• Refs 55, 56 and 57 should use refnames from the charts table
• Cite Yonhap News Agency as publisher instead on ref 66
• Ref 73 should cite Blackpink as the author
• Pipe Elle to Elle (magazine) on ref 74
• Cite Yahoo! News UK as publisher instead on ref 77
• Cite BBC as publisher instead on ref 79
• Cite Jaxsta as publisher instead on ref 85
• Pipe Gaon Music Chart to Circle Chart on ref 105

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; completed by now! --K. Peake 14:22, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

  @Kyle Peake My apologies for the delay as I had been preoccupied with other projects at the moment. If there is anything still missing, please let me know. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 17:51, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

  Nkon21 There a few things to go over with you - the comp section should use musically and then the song's full title instead of stylistically, BuzzFeed needs to be removed unless you can justify it to me, reception should read as Moon from Time per the reviewer being previously introduced, translation for the accolade comes through as song of the year for me is yours definitely different, Global Excl. US ref needs to be cited in commercial, order of personnel is not clear for composers or lyricist being first, is 100 million streaming certification figure for both SK and Japan, and refs 56-58 need to use refnames for those countries from the charts table. Great work though; I've even done some copy editing for you! --K. Peake 07:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

  1) deleted Buzzfeed 2) The Gaon Awards is confusing as the official title of the category is "Artist of the Year in Digital Music - Month" or what not; simplified that part in accolades 3) Global Ex. US is already sourced in ref 42 4) alphabetized credits and personnel 5) The song was certified platinum in both SoKor and Japan, meaning that it surpassed 100m streams in both countries. Done with the rest, thanks for the ce! ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 21:28, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

  ✓ Pass now, great work and I removed the weeks on Global Excl. US since that is something not sourced even though the peak position is backed up. --K. Peake 07:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)