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Reviewer: Cloudz679 (talk · contribs) 21:03, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking this up Cloudz. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 05:22, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
- "She left the song and pursued a different musical direction." in the lead, is redundant
- "Barlow wanted to record more songs for Open Road and chanced upon the demo in 1997. So after changing the lyrics from Madonna's female point of view, he recorded the track, with Stephen Lipson as producer." prose
- Forever Love seems to be missing a quotation mark
- "He also performed the song at the 1997 pre-Grammy Award party, which was negatively received." makes it sound like the party was negatively received, but do you mean the performance? Clarify
- "But Barlow wanted to record more songs in the United States." prose
- "Barlow did not like it, but following his disastrous performance at the pre-Grammy show and due to his contractual obligations, he felt he did not have a choice but to release the track as his second single on 24 April 1997 in the United Kingdom.[4]" seems it would work best as two sentences, and appropriate changes
- "The song also received remix treatment from DJs like Cuca and Monster Makers, released as a remix CD single in June 1997.[6]" please clarify
- "were considered a stand-out by The Times.[4] It also received positive response from British press." The Times is British press
- "outside the top 40 in New Zealand" why is this not more precise, in line with all the other positions given?
- Because the official New Zealand chart is published for the top forty only. Anything outside it is catalogued, but not given importance. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 07:32, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
- So it needn't be in the prose, such as the case for the Swedish and Belgian chart positions, which are not discussed. C679 08:27, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
- Because the official New Zealand chart is published for the top forty only. Anything outside it is catalogued, but not given importance. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 07:32, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
- "The performance, which Barlow did not have any time to rehearse or memorize the lyrics" seems to be missing a preposition
- Fair Use image has appropriate information.
- Please let me know once this has been addressed, and I will look at the referencing separately. C679 16:59, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Cloudz679: I have addressed all of your concerns. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 07:32, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
- There is a grammar issue in the lead now, should be "to represent". I will get onto the referencing shortly. C679 08:27, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
- Ok that is all fixed. I have had another read through and it seems to jump around in the "release and reception" and also "music video and performance" sections. I assume the Grammys party was in February but this is not mentioned directly. The article suggests the Grammy performance preceded Barlow's arrival in the States. That doesn't seem right. Also "Davis" is insufficient as a first mention. Was the February recording trip a recording for the Grammys or the song? There are some unanswered questions here. C679 12:47, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
- I rearranged the section actually and tweaked the content, now the structure is flowing per timeline. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 07:01, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- I see you rearranged it; although it's better I still can't see the passage of time. How could he be "already facing negative reception due to his Grammy performance of the song" when he arrived in the States (which is presumably where he made the performance) in February 1997, if that is also when he went to the party? Did Davis play him the poppier version before or after the unfavourably-received performance? A merge of what is currently the first and beginning of the third paragraphs would appear to be in order. Seems to me that the most plausible explanation is that a) he did the performance, which was negatively received, and then Davis played him a poppier version, which he did not like but had to release due to his contractual obligations, but this means that this playing of the poppier version was not when he arrived, but more accurately following the performance. The only other scenario I can imagine is that, b) Davis got him over to the States to perform at the party. Upon arrival, Davis played him a version of the song, which he didn't like, but had to perform at the party regardless, and later went on to record it. Either way this February jaunt to the States should be covered in a single paragraph. C679 19:34, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Cloudz679: how's it now? —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 07:06, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- I see you rearranged it; although it's better I still can't see the passage of time. How could he be "already facing negative reception due to his Grammy performance of the song" when he arrived in the States (which is presumably where he made the performance) in February 1997, if that is also when he went to the party? Did Davis play him the poppier version before or after the unfavourably-received performance? A merge of what is currently the first and beginning of the third paragraphs would appear to be in order. Seems to me that the most plausible explanation is that a) he did the performance, which was negatively received, and then Davis played him a poppier version, which he did not like but had to release due to his contractual obligations, but this means that this playing of the poppier version was not when he arrived, but more accurately following the performance. The only other scenario I can imagine is that, b) Davis got him over to the States to perform at the party. Upon arrival, Davis played him a version of the song, which he didn't like, but had to perform at the party regardless, and later went on to record it. Either way this February jaunt to the States should be covered in a single paragraph. C679 19:34, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- I rearranged the section actually and tweaked the content, now the structure is flowing per timeline. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 07:01, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- Referencing: fn7 should apparently be linked to [1] and not the currently used link.
- This is generated from the {{singlechart}} template and I cannot update it. It seems the UK charts urls had migrated to the new link and they are working on upgrading the template. Anyways the url generated directly redirects to the one you posted above. Its not like its a dead link or anything. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 07:01, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- The European Hot 100 Singles (Billboard), fn9, doesn't seem to support the article. In any rate I couldn't find such details on page 51 per the footnote. That seems to be all. C679 13:13, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
- Removed. Thanks for catching it. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 07:01, 23 March 2015 (UTC)