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Review: September 3, 2023. (Reviewed version).

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Chart trajectory

How are chart trajectories efficient for an encyclopedia? I can see why users are adding them, because they are useful for informationists, libraries and charts, yet I don't believe they should be hanging around on an encyclopedia with hyphens between each number. Perhaps some sort of chart or graph could be created? I would find this much more acceptable but still a bit of an overdose. Eternal Equinox 19:34, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Information box

The formats of "Look at Me" should display the country that the separate releases were solicitated in; a CD single was not sent to shops in the U.S. though. If the information box does not indicate this, then it can be misleading. Wikipedia is attempting to summarize the facts, not leave them hanging for one to assume them. Thanks. —Eternal Equinox | talk 21:49, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. Adog (Talk・Cont) 00:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: Adog (talk · contribs) 03:41, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

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I am gonna pick this up as part of the last reviews to complete for the GAN drive of August 2023. I will have this done by today, August 31. Adog (Talk・Cont) 03:41, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Writing for Wikipedia, a dog was fairly surprised at the directions for such a song in the late 1990s/early 2000s in terms of its musical composition. The dog felt the song as "pretty catchy, maybe even 'fetch' as the contemporary Mean Girls Gretchen would say". The dog further described the music video as appealing, with fun scenes of Geri Halliwell in the disjointed musical chorus. The dog finished his review by highlighting that the song "was indeed a way for Halliwell to get eyes on her", with music work that was "a curveball for its era thematically, sound-wise, and visually". Adog (Talk・Cont) 11:35, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

Lead

It was written by the singer ... I would put the name of the singer here as it serves the lead better narratively.
Musically, "Look at Me" is a jazz-pop song which features a nine-piece brass section, while the autobiographical lyrics depict Halliwell demanding the attention of all those around her. might read better as Musically, "Look at Me" is a jazz-pop song featuring a nine-piece brass section, while the autobiographical lyrics depict Halliwell demanding the attention of everyone around her.
"Look at Me" received mixed reviews from music critics, with some of them finding similarities to Shirley Bassey's work. "of them" may be redundant here, as "some" helps to convey the sentence.
An accompanying music video was directed by Vaughan Arnell and filmed in Prague and in London ... I would remove the "in" before "London" as it is redundant.
"Look at Me" was promoted during a short promotional tour which visited a number of cities around the world, ... might read better as "Look at Me" was promoted during a short promotional tour that visited several cities worldwide, ...

Background and release

In 1998, Halliwell left girl group Spice Girls, claiming that she was suffering from exhaustion, and because of differences between the group. Possible missing word "the" before "girl group" and I would omit the comma after "exhaustion" and the word "and" as it runs awkwardly.
She would later admit of having problems ... "of" to "to".
Among the tracks written for the album, titled Schizophonic, Halliwell chose "Look at Me" as the lead single, as she thought it was a good idea to return with a song that people would either love or hate but could not be indifferent to, and felt that it was "in your face and full of attitude and that seemed like the right message to send". I would break this sentence into two as it is rather lengthy and could be hard to follow. I would likely change as ... as the lead single. Halliwell thought the selection was a good idea ...
In 2012, it was selected as the one of the few solo songs from the Spice Girls ... Omit "the" before "one" as it is an extra word.

I rewrote the sentence to "as one of two solo songs..." according to the source Alex ^{reach me!} 00:10, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Composition

On BBC News' Chris Charles opinion, ... starts a bit awkward. I would change it to maybe: BBC News' Chris Charles opinioned the track ...
... "we shouldn’t take each other on just face value. We can be anything. We can be all of these people." Has a curly apostrophe when straight are used. Also, punctuation should be outside quotation.

Commercial performance

You could remove the comma pause by rearranging the sentence In the United Kingdom, "Look at Me" was released the same week as Boyzone's "You Needed Me". as "Look at Me" was released the same week as Boyzone's "You Needed Me" in the United Kingdom.
in order for to for.
In May 2014, it was revealed that the song was Halliwell's fourth biggest selling solo single in the United Kingdom ... it might be worth noting who revealed this statistic.

Music video

... as well as at Highgate Cemetery in London in March 1999.[54][12] Source numerical arrangement here.
Most of the music video is black and white, except in one scene in the middle of the video, during the funeral of Halliwell's stage persona "Ginger Spice", while as the Union Jack flag is pulled off her coffin, she is seen sporting red hair with blonde highlights and a red thorn crown, while laughing with eyes wide open. is a rather lengthy statement; I would consider chopping this into two sentence, likely stage persona "Ginger Spice". As the Union Jack flag ... I would also remove the comma after "crown".
At the end of the video ... Comma after "video" for needed pause.

References

76, has a archive-url error.

The ref is automatically generated by Template:singlechart and is working for me. Alex ^{reach me!} 00:10, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alrighty, the skim-through and read-through were very good. Onto a spot check tomorrow morning (for me) to complete this review and the standard write-up (as well as a personal song review with no bearing on the actual review). Adog (Talk・Cont) 05:23, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Additional comments or concerns

MOS:DUPLINK, "Shirley Bassey" in "Critical reception".
Spot check: "In 1998, Halliwell left girl group Spice Girls, claiming that she was suffering from exhaustion, and because of differences between the group" this source does support this sentence except for that "she was suffering from exhaustion". Either source to match or omit?
The sentence starting "Additionally, rumours of a feud ...", I do not believe it describes the sources accurately here. From what is said, the sources point more-towards a possible Mel B bully (one-sided) as opposed to a dispute between Halliwell and Mel B.
As with the previous review, I am not sure if this source illustrates that the song was released on 10 May. Possible explanation of facts or this source in the article says it was released on that day.

*Because quotes are quoted, such as the statement "heavy, Latin-tinged beat that lends the song a slight resemblance" to Ricky Martin's "Livin' la Vida Loca", it should be double quoted using templates {{" '}} {{' "}}.

"Some reviewers also compared it to the Propellerheads and Shirley Bassey's "History Repeating" (1997).[26][20]" Numerical order of refs. here.
"Russell Baillie of The New Zealand Herald commented that "Look at Me" was one of the album's "knock-offs" at their cheapest, as well as a "toner-free photocopy of the Propellerheads-with-Shirley Bassey track History Repeating." [26]" Spacing between this ref. and sentence.
"The music video features four versions of Halliwell: a vamp, a bitch, a virgin, and a sister; she stated that she was "laughing at the stereotypes of women" with these depictions" This source mentions "vamp" and "virgin" but not "bitch" or "sister". Same sentence, another instance of quote in a quote. This source does mention the above terms, but because these are specific descriptions to the article, I would quote these.
"... which as the Union Jack flag is pulled off her coffin, she is seen sporting red hair with blonde highlights and a red thorn crown, while laughing with eyes wide open" Source mentions everything absent of the Union Jack part. Source to match?
Check links stated this source as a warning for expiring link. I would archive.

Well written + verifiability

The article is well written with some corrections or suggestions made. The article follows a manual of style for singles and songs. The article also cites a list of reliable sources, with a properly formatted reference table. The article has some spot check issues worth addressing above. Earwig says it is unlikely for close paraphrasing, plagiarism, or copyright, though I would double check. This source has some close paraphrasing, but a correction I suggested above might help, I would also quote "as a" in the latter. Adog (Talk・Cont) 11:35, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Broadness + focus + neutral

The article covers broad topics, with a good focus on its subject matter. No complaints here. The article is neutral, giving fair leeway to the article's subject, as well as reviews from music critics. Adog (Talk・Cont) 11:35, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Images + stability

In terms of images, the artwork for the single is relevant to the article, and so too is the Boyzone one; however, the latter image I am not convinced is freely uploaded because it is missing its description, the quality seems professionally taken though the upload is in poor quality, and it seems to similar to some other images here. I would drop this image. The article is stable, with no active or ongoing edit conflicts. Adog (Talk・Cont) 11:35, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Boyzone's image was changed Alex ^{reach me!} 00:10, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@11JORN: Once again, the review is complete! I have some minor issues worth addressing above, but other than that the article is looking at a pass! Adog (Talk・Cont) 11:35, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Adog Once again (no pun intended), thanks for your review! Alex ^{reach me!} 00:10, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@11JORN: Awesome once again, haha! The article is looking good! Thank you for making another song GA! Adog (Talk・Cont) 00:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.