Talk:List of women psychologists
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[edit]Please see discussion at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard. My recommendation is that this List be stubbified to an alphabetical list, removing the content that should have been added to individual bios and should have used better sources. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:13, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
- I disagree: an alphabetic list is no different to a category and then there is no point. I suggest looking at other featured lists for ideas. The gender selection and focus in the biography snippets does make me uncomfortable -- thinking there is an agenda to this article rather than a dispassionate listing. -- Colin°Talk 20:31, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks Colin. I also sensed an agenda. Anyway, taking your suggestion, I went to WP:FL and found:
- all of which seem to follow a format that might work better here, and include a bit of biographical info without attempting to recreate the bio. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:37, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
- The polio one probably tries hardest to give some detail on how the disease affected the person. For some other people-lists, there isn't much to say other than a one line bio to hint why they are famous - often for something else. The difference here is these people are notable for being psychologists, rather than notable singers who happened to have caught some disease. So their career and research is quite relevant, and may be hard to sum up as briefly as "jazz singer". And despite my concerns of agenda, for this list to have any purpose, then I suppose it is relevant to state if these women were the first to achieve something or triumphed over discrimination. But all the more reason to ensure the sourcing is fair. As I noted elsewhere, finding sources for people like psychologists is much harder than for entertainers and sports people. If the person is dead, then there may be an obituary in a science journal. -- Colin°Talk 20:48, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, Colin; I converted the text to a list following on those samples given, and tried to preserve the "firsts" etc. I had to lose a lot of text that was not reliably sourced, but now the list is in good shape for expansion. I left off a lot of the basic bio info (where and when born, where educated, who married to, etc), as that sort of info is duplicated from each individual bio, and the list should focus on some (as yet undefined) criteria, like first in their field for something, major international prizes, whatever. Thanks, Colin. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:26, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
- The polio one probably tries hardest to give some detail on how the disease affected the person. For some other people-lists, there isn't much to say other than a one line bio to hint why they are famous - often for something else. The difference here is these people are notable for being psychologists, rather than notable singers who happened to have caught some disease. So their career and research is quite relevant, and may be hard to sum up as briefly as "jazz singer". And despite my concerns of agenda, for this list to have any purpose, then I suppose it is relevant to state if these women were the first to achieve something or triumphed over discrimination. But all the more reason to ensure the sourcing is fair. As I noted elsewhere, finding sources for people like psychologists is much harder than for entertainers and sports people. If the person is dead, then there may be an obituary in a science journal. -- Colin°Talk 20:48, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Withdraw earlier criticism
[edit]I withdraw earlier my criticism, the list as it stands now is good, thanks to the hard work of several parties, but mainly User:SandyGeorgia. Stuartyeates (talk) 00:21, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
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