Talk:List of vampire films
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Gutting
[edit]This list is painful. It's cluttered, badly formatted, and inconsistently written. I intend to chainsaw it into reasonable shape, something along the following lines:
- Removal of entries without articles unless supported by significant enough references that an article could be written.
- Possible split into List of vampire films and List of Dracula films to reduce clutter
- Reworking the content into a table rather than a two-columned prose list - table allowing for organization by year, country, director, and/or other pertinent facts
- Possible tightening of criteria - films must feature at least one main vampire character, or vampires as the major antagonist, not just mention vampires
If anyone has any thoughts or objections let's talk about it. I want to make this a functional list for readers and at the moment it just is not that. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:17, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
Tables!
[edit]Both main sections now converted to sortable tables (from 3-column bullet-lists). I believe this may warrant the removal of the Layout issues tag, but I'll leave that to more experienced editors to decide. The information is essentially unchanged, although I realised late in the exercise that I was ignoring nested bullets indicating series links, so someone may want to add series references in the notes. The tables are in their original order - apparently by date of first film in a series. Ideally, I guess they'd be sorted by date of film, but I figure with the sortable table it doesn't really matter. Both tables could use a lot of additional details, most of which can probably be gleaned from the links to the movies' individual pages. I hope I've picked an appropriate set of fields and that I've correctly attributed the "by" credits as Directors. Running time and Producer strike me as the most likely additions.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by StumpyNZ (talk • contribs) 10:13, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
The Devil's Daughter (1915): accuracy?
[edit]This seems questionable to me because, while I think I know why it was added -- the film had an alternate title, The Vampire -- I can't find any other reference which would indicate that the film departed from the source material La Gioconda in including a Vampire. In fact, descriptions (and these may or may not simply be taken from La Gioconda's synopsis, since the film is lost) of it follow La Gioconda's plot in all the particulars. The Vampire would then be a metaphorical rather than literal description of Gioconda Dianti, who seeks revenge on her lover by seducing and destroying new lovers. This list does not properly include metaphorical vampires, unless there's something I'm missing. For these reasons I'd say we should find a source for the inclusion of a literal vampire in the film; else it's dubious. Graatch (talk) 21:37, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- You bring up some good points. I cannot speak as to whether or not the character was indeed what we know to be a "vampire" however the 1915 newspaper ad for it specifically states "The Vampire Woman" below the headshot photo: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/The_Devil%27s_Daughter_(1915_film)#/media/File:TheDevilsDaughter1915newspaperad.jpgChanbara (talk) 17:01, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- "Vampire woman" (aka "vamp") meant, at the time, just a femme fatale, not a supernatural creature. There's at least another film in the list, Robert G. Vignola's The Vampire, which is using the term metaphorically. And if metaphorical vampires are allowed, then Theda Bara herself portrayed many more of those (it was in fact her specialty), including one of the few surviving ones of her filmography, A Fool There Was, in which she's explicitly credited as "The Vampire" – although she's not actually a vampire. Kumagoro-42 (talk) 21:43, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
- You bring up some good points. I cannot speak as to whether or not the character was indeed what we know to be a "vampire" however the 1915 newspaper ad for it specifically states "The Vampire Woman" below the headshot photo: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/The_Devil%27s_Daughter_(1915_film)#/media/File:TheDevilsDaughter1915newspaperad.jpgChanbara (talk) 17:01, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Dracula: Sovereign Of The Damned/Tomb of Dracula (1980)
[edit]The animated movie "Dracula: Sovereign Of The Damned" (aka "Tomb of Dracula"; 1980) should be in the DRACULA section of the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.149.237.131 (talk) 17:32, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Le Manoir du Diable
[edit]Is there any source that calls this the first vampire film? The title very clearly communicates Méliès intended the character to be the Devil, so why should the Devil be a vampire? Besides, in the film, except for turning into a bat, which is not exclusive prerogative of a vampire, nothing else pays any tribute to the folklore about vampires. It seems a major stretch to include it. Kumagoro-42 (talk) 12:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Al Adamson
[edit]B-movie legend Al Adamson directed several vampire films – e.g. Blood of Dracula's Castle (1967), Dracula vs. Frankenstein (1971), Doctor Dracula (1978) – but none of them is in the list. Should we add them? Kumagoro-42 (talk) 14:09, 21 May 2021 (UTC)