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Under Construction?

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Can we remove the Under Construction template? DRE (talk) 18:38, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No cause there is still inconsistancy in the "type" column.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 10:07, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Now it is removed. --Bolter21 (talk to me) 00:17, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

how many settler attacks on Palestinians are you going to ignore

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Some serious bias in the list. Lists need to be removed if they are going to pick and choose what they think is terrorism and ignore attacks that don't fit an agenda. And clearly those upkeeping these lists have a biased agenda. You even have Israelis being stabbed by Israelis for looking Palestinian, among the countless other settler attacks on them, yet none of those events are reported. Both sides are committing attacks, not just one. How do you report pages for this sort of bias? 96.31.177.52 (talk) 10:43, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Listen. This list include incidents that caused casualties and doesn't include all rock throwing incidents against Israelis (exept for two, one caused death and one should be removed) and the reason is simple, there are too many and they are too minor. According to Israel every rock throwing incident is a terror incident but I am not going to add over 100 incidents. If you have a settler terror incident that has casualties and is significant enough to be in the list (not rock throwing) then put it here. There is the Duma arson attack here and two other attacks made by Israeli Jews during the recent wave of violence. Just be spesific what do you want to add, you can always add them, but be sure that adding super minor incidents will resault in adding super minor palestinina violence incidents which will resault in a list which has 50% super minor incidents (since there are so many). So be spesific. --12:11, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
It isn't rock throwing incidents I'm talking about, there have been many multiple attacks by settlers that have killed or wounded Palestinians. I'm talking ISRAELI settlers, and Israeli attacks not from military members that have killed or wounded Palestinians. Yet not one of those incidents is posted. To claim there isn't a bias on these pages is dishonest. There are far more than 2 other attacks. Clearly you are part of the bias here. And clearly there is a bigoted agenda by some. Either the pages should be fixed for its anti-Palestinian bias, or it should be taken down for its bias and bigotry as the sham lists they are. 96.31.177.52 (talk) 12:11, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Calm down and provide the spesific incidents you want to add. I am not biased not to add attacks I haven't heard of, this list is not a result of people who have a list of incidents and they choose what to add, 99% of the incidents here are incidents that were added just by reading the news while a mere 1% were re-added or later removed, mainly shootings in the US, stone-throwing attack by Palestinians, if I recall correct there was a rocket shooting from Gaza and also some attacks with not enough evidence to name them terror attacks, mainly from the Moro conflict. Give a source to an incident. --Bolter21 (talk to me) 13:51, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Try various human rights group pages like: B'Tselem Problem being documentation and reporting is mostly one sided also. Palestinian being shot and injured are reported repeatedly like these pages discuss, but the incidents never documents. When you create lists like this and ignore the biased and limited access to reporting the Palestinians have, you are complicit in the silencing of them while promoting a one sided view of what is going on. "When Palestinians harm Israeli citizens, the Israeli authorities use all means to arrest suspects and prosecute them, including measures that do not comport with international law and that flagrantly breach human rights. The military courts impose maximum sentences on those convicted. However, when Israelis harm Palestinians, the authorities implement an undeclared policy of forgiveness, compromise, and leniency in punishment." "Many acts of violence have never been investigated; in other cases, investigations have been drawn out and resulted in no action being taken against anyone." And of course if it is a soldier that injures them, then it is always reported as justified despite the investigations of Amnesty and other rights groups. Yesh din when it is scattered in minor http://www.yesh-din.org/infoitem.asp?infocatid=737 When any reports are scattered in various sites and not detailed "Stones thrown at a car carrying a Palestinian woman and her daughter on the main road in Huwwara resulted in the wounding of the 17 year-old daughter. Israeli security forces personnel were present during the attack. Residents of Burin stoned in the presence of Israeli security forces personnel." So how exactly do you think a fair reporting of what is going on there is going to happen? How do you think it affects those reading about it when only half truth is told? You don't think it biases views? When it is scattered in sites "http://www.yesh-din.org/infoitem.asp?infocatid=737 There are hundreds of these around, but you won't look for a fair accounting. As much as I would love to, I don't have the opportunity to keep track of it (the few I posted are drops in the bucket). Heck you don't even have the well publicized stabbing of a Jewish man, by an Israeli mistaking him for a Palestinian. http://indianexpress.com/article/world/middle-east-africa/israeli-jew-stabs-another-in-failed-revenge-plot/ or http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.679570 It takes a child killed by Arson to get listed here. So no I disagree with the idea there isn't a bias. A And stand by the assertion that the lists be taken down if there is not an effort in balanced listing. The lists are just another way to smear certain groups. Heck this is just the Israel Palestinian conflict. I could go to how many reports in the Philippines not posted, or Africa. It goes on and on. 96.31.177.52 (talk) 04:18, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If list like this are going to be made, then the effort for them to be accurate and fair needs to be made also. If people aren't willing to do so, then the lists should be here. 96.31.177.52 (talk) 04:21, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Outside of Wikipedia I would say some spicy things about your comment. The attack involving a Jew stabbing a Jew and the Jew stabbing four Arabs most of which are Israeli Bediuins were listed by me in the first oppertunity I had. Do you talk about Israeli settlers throwing rocks at Palestinian civilains? Do you know how many rock throwing attacks I read everyday and ask my self if I should add them? this for example is one that occured this week, in which Palestinians throw 4 kilograms (8.8 pound) rockes on Israeli cars wounding two people. I could found some more incidents I have no intention to add, mother and an infant injured, Israeli woman, two adults, three children, teen injured and many other I could easly find in other Hebrew sites. According to Israeli media (in contrast to Arab/pro-Palestinian media) there were over 1000 terror incidents, of them around 50 reached this list since they were a serious delibriate attacks while only one rock throwing incident reached the list since it caused a death. As I said before, when people raised rock incidents by Israelis, if you will put rocks against Palestinians, I"ll have to put rock against Israelis and the list will just be too long with bearly relevent information. As I saw that the relatevly minor stabbing attacks against Israelis are filling the list I decided to write less about them, you can see it when comparing them to earlier incidents in the year. I mainly base my arbitration on the Global Terrorism Database which eventially will be the source of many incidents when they"ll publish the 2015 list this summer. There is no biased agenda here, just a technical agenda.
And if you have incidents, that are not limited to stone throwing resulting no more then an injury, feel free to add them. I am bearly on track with the philipines, nor do their minor incidents even reach my eyes since no one report them on the media I use or can easly found in google and Africa? I give them my tears as attacks resulting deaths of dozens bearly have the sources needed, eventially most incidents are from those who reach mainstream media like Reuters and Yahoo News.
I will say it for the last time, I am just a random guy, I don't have a complete database of all the terror incidents in the world and add them on my own will, I just get them on my phone's reports and search for them in mainstream media to find as many is I can and. --Bolter21 (talk to me) 14:49, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The sites I suggested don't just go to stone throwing incidents, but you see set to cherry pick that. If the list can't be updated appropriately and is one sided, do you not see how it is a disservice not only to wikipedia, but the truth? That it is doing harm by presenting a biased view even if unintended. 96.31.177.52 (talk) 11:53, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
How would it be biased if stone attacks are not shown at all exept for the most serious incidents which is one incident resulting death? Can you explain how not showing one conflict's super spesific incidents done by both sides is biased? --Bolter21 (talk to me) 21:12, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you keep dishonestly deflecting to this being about stone attacks? How many times do I have to say it isn't about that before you stop trying to divert attention back to that strawman? Again if people working on this page can't be troubled to do the work to be fair and unbiased and accurate, then it does a disservice to the whole point of wikipedia and shouldn't be here at all. 96.31.177.52 (talk) 00:32, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This is Wikipedia and you are an editor in it. Insteed of talking about how should I work, why won't you contribute to the article, which you claim is "biased" although you"ve yet to bring an incident that will fit int this list. Do not bring me the source bank, bring me the spesific incident you want to add. I already told you why those you"ve brought will not suite this article. --Bolter21 (talk to me) 13:02, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Why don't you who focuses on this list, try not to make it biased? Or as I said, remove it. I think a moderation team needs to come in here as the bias of the list hasn't changed at all still. 96.31.177.52 (talk) 01:11, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

West/East Jerusalem Consistency

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Since attacks perpetrated in East Jerusalem have been labelled as occurring in East Jerusalem, for consistency, wouldn't it be better to label those perpetrated in West Jerusalem as having occurred in West Jerusalem rather than, as they currently are, just in Jerusalem.     ←   ZScarpia   12:00, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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